On Thursday 17 January 2002 22:57, Kenneth Hadley wrote: > LOL, that is a solution alright... > and something I thought of, but I dont want to fork Dachstein by > offering a modified release and not being able to support it (since > it pretty obvious how inactive I can be on this project due to a busy > schedule) > > Hopefully when (if) Charles releases a Dachstein CD running a newer > glibc I can release a newer Roaring Pengiun PPPoE package...
<rant> I agree that is a possible solution and one that I'm sure many have spent long hours contemplating. Without a doubt, someday, we will likely be forced into using a format that won't work on a single floppy, but that kind of defeats the purpose in general that many have ideally stayed with in LEAF. Coyote has been forced to abandoning floppy development to stay up with the core changes, but I think we can still move up to a 2.4 kernel and stay on a standalone floppy anyway. I've seen one embedded linux floppy distro do it, but they have had to create a custom floppy image off a cgi script on the web to fit it on the disk (I will have to locate the url). As discussed at quite some length many months ago, I believe the bloat associated with the move up in glibc is due the built-in support for 64-bit processors (again url is lacking at hand.... I found it a long time ago off a devel group on google). It should be possible to strip the 64-bit options off new glibc versions and reduce the size almost in half, but someone would likely have to spend a huge amount of time figuring out what ./configure options could strip this or simply stripping the code manually (hehe, that would take the patience of a saint). When LEAF leaves the single floppy behind, the entire project target changes and all the indications point to the change happening in the next 6 months or so. It seems that the primary developers are trying to keep the original target (floppy), and for that I commend them, it would be easy to simply abandon this target and move on to other ones. I for one still use the single floppy release as my primary home firewall. I have installed the DCD cd release in several different configurations including a harddrive, a flash drive, and a stand-alone cdrom, but in all honesty the floppy version stills does anything I need it to at home and it still intrigues me how well put together it is. The one thing I have found in setting up servers recently and creating an entire LFS system from scratch with the most recent packages available. The _entire_ core system (kernel, compiler, c libraries, base utilities, filesystems, etc....) is making a huge jump at the same time. Though the whole is functioning when put together now, there are still many bugs and incompatibilities when added together. With this in mind, nothing, except maybe gcc-2.9.5, is truly as stable as what we found in the former base as stable. I feel that with out goal in mind, that under any circumstance, we should wait until the core finally becomes what many of us know as _stable_ before moving on. Though difficult, I think we can still keep it on a floppy. A more feature based cd/flash/hd release should be made to accomodate those wanting and needing more, but the entire thought shifts when the floppy is abandoned. After all, what new is out that any of us truly need? <rant /> -- ~Lynn Avants aka Guitarlynn guitarlynn at users.sourceforge.net http://leaf.sourceforge.net If linux isn't the answer, you've probably got the wrong question! _______________________________________________ Leaf-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/leaf-user
