Tom Eastep <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can't reproduce the problem with MS tracert either.
> 
> 
>    Tracing route to animal.blarg.net [206.124.128.1]
>    over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 
>      1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  gateway.shorewall.net [192.168.1.254]
>      2    22 ms    22 ms    25 ms  atm02.sea.blarg.net [206.124.128.31]
>      3    25 ms    24 ms    26 ms  animal.blarg.net [206.124.128.1]
> 
>    Trace complete.

Well, it certainly happens for me, both on my home LAN behind a Bering
1.0-rc3 and on my work LAN behind a Bering 1.0-rc3:

  Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195]
  (C) Copyright 1985-2000 Microsoft Corp.

  C:\>tracert animal.blarg.net

  Tracing route to animal.blarg.net [206.124.128.1]
  over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
    2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  cisco-2.speed.net [204.212.42.50]
    3   771 ms   <10 ms     *     sl-gw23-ana-4-3-TS16.sprintlink.net [144.232.191.153]
    4   260 ms   291 ms   440 ms  sl-bb20-ana-3-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.1.45]
    5    20 ms   561 ms    20 ms  sl-bb22-ana-14-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.1.177]

    6   560 ms    10 ms   561 ms  144.232.9.146
    7   481 ms   601 ms   601 ms  pos4-0-2488M.cr1.SNA1.gblx.net [64.215.195.89]
    8   691 ms   701 ms   641 ms  pos0-0-2488M.cr2.SEA1.gblx.net [64.215.195.2]
    9   611 ms   560 ms   601 ms  pos12-0-0-155M.ar3.SEA1.gblx.net [208.49.158.102]
   10   641 ms   701 ms   631 ms  BlargOnLineServices.s12-1-0.ar3.SEA1.gblx.net 
[208.51.239.2]
   11   481 ms   410 ms   441 ms  animal.blarg.net [206.124.128.1]

  Trace complete.

> MS tracert appears to just be using ICMP echo-request (ping) packets. It 
> starts out with TTL=1 and increases. 

Well, that's awfully strange, because both at home and at work I can ping
the Bering box just fine:

  C:\>ping gatekeeper

  Pinging gatekeeper [192.168.1.254] with 32 bytes of data:

  Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
  Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time<10ms TTL=255
  Reply from 192.168.1.254: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255

  Ping statistics for 192.168.1.254:
      Packets: Sent = 3, Received = 3, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
  Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
      Minimum = 0ms, Maximum =  10ms, Average =  6ms
  Control-C
  ^C

but tracert gets the "Request timed out".

> I've tested using both Windows XP and Windows ME.

Well, since XP is a hybrid of features from the NT-based Windows OSes and
the DOS-based ones, it's possible that Win2K (and NT) tracert works
differently than XP and ME tracert, though it seems somewhat unlikely.

FWIW, I tried boxes on my work network running four different UNIX flavors,
and they all get the same problem on hop 1, though I guess that's to be
expected if UNIX traceroute uses UDP and on my work Bering box (unlike my
home Bering box) I haven't tried changing that UDP port range to ACCEPT
(REJECT should work too, no?).

> Dan -- the only thing that I can see that would cause the problem that you 
> are seeing is if the firewall is blocking fw->loc time exceeded ICMP 
> packets. The icmp.def file that I release definitely allows those through. 
> And since the packet is related to a loc->net "ping" request, it should be 
> passed unconditionally.

I haven't done anything strange to the Shorewall setup on either my home or
work Bering boxes.  In both cases, the only tweaks I've made to the stock
setup is to uncomment the Policy line allowing unfettered access to the
Internet from the firewall, and to add a line in Rules allowing SSH access
from an IP or a range of IPs.

In any case, it doesn't appear to be just me, since someone else originally
reported this problem, and I was just confirming that I can reproduce it.

--
Dan Harkless
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://harkless.org/dan/


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