At 05:51 PM 10/28/02 -0600, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
[...]
You need to talk to more Microsoft people (motto: Microsoft doesn't
understand how tcp/ip works.)  The L2TP protocol used by M$ WAN's is a
Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol (hence the name), which enables your systems
to propogate Layer 2 packets (including broadcasts and arp requests)
over a WAN.  This is actually billed as a *FEATURE* of their WAN
software vs. the competition, which doesn't have such a feature.  The
fact that no-one should be so insane as to actually *WANT* to pipe
broadcast packets across their WAN is apparently lost on the
market-droids (and MS networking programmers).
Sheesh. Is this part of the plan to convince the market that all routers need to use P-4 CPUs? Or is it a plan to rescue the telecoms by putting all that excess bandwidth to use?

Way back in the Dark Ages, I actually ran a WAN setup that used filtering bridges to connect sites over ISDN. The WAN side was a bit of a black box, but I think it implemented some sort of ethernet-over-ppp tunneling (no encryption, but they were point-to-point demand-dial links, not VPNs). Never worked very well, and eventually some grown-up company bought out the little startup that made the bridges and put the product line out of its misery.

So I knew that this sort of tunneling *could* be done. I'm amazed it actually *is* being done, though ... I'll stand by my original assessment ("this isn't quite as weird as it sounds, but it is *almost* as weird as it sounds"). Pfui!


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