> It's hardly "gross financial mismanagement" compared to what 
> went  before, is 
> it. 

What else do you call not paying ANY bills for 2 months? Astute financial
acumen?

>  
> Stop dwelling on what's happened and focus on taking us forwards.

And Bates will do that? He's taken us backwards so far.

> 
> Bates is trying, somewhat shadily, to clean up the books by 
> dodging a £5m  
> tax bill. Good. When has the tax man done anyone any favours?

Just who is this mythical tax man? Oh yeah, it's you, me and the rest of the
country - I have to pay tax, you have to pay tax, why doesn't Leeds United
have to hand over the tax it collects?

>  
> Unfortunately some small suppliers will lose some money. 
> Tough. Collateral  
> damage I'm afraid. Why should it concern us? Our loyalty is 
> to Leeds  United.  
>  

I'm not sure I can continue a debate with someone as morally depraved as
you.
If theft is acceptable in the name of Leeds United then one wonders where
you draw the line.
Is murder ok in the name of leeds united? If it's ok for Ken to rob someone
of his livelihood so that Ken can make a few million pounds it must
similarly be ok for Ken to rob someone of his life so that Ken can make a
few million pounds.
By your reckoning then, the London bombings would have been ok if they'd
been done by Ken Bates in the name of leeds united rather than some muslim
fundamentalists in the name of Allah!
If Leeds United is SO important to you that nothing else matters - like the
lives of other people - why don't you live in Leeds and go to every game?

>  
>  
> >>Furthermore one has to laugh at the 'mysterious plans of 
> LUST'  jibe, I
> assume from this comment that you are fully conversed in the plans  of
> Morris, Revie and/or Bates. If so please feel free to share 
> them with  the
> list.<<
>  
>  
> You're missing the point, Paul. All these plans are vague.

Is that vague like 'We'll be virtually out of debt by next June'?
Who's, of the interested parties, plans aren't vague?

> I 
> don't trust  
> Morris, 

I don't trust Bates.

> and I'm not convinced Revie has the resources. LUST's 
> chairman  
> participates in this list, yet I have no idea what their 
> plans are. Someone  please 
> tell me! They might be fantastic! 

Why should they tell you?
When did Bates tell you his plans? Did you KNOW he planned to go into
administration this summer in an attempt to defraud the country and the
community? You could have told Boo's Disco - poor b*stard is in a right mess
- he could lose his house if all he gets is £265 for 2 months work.

>  
> I have an idea of what Bates is planning, based on him 
> repeating the  formula 
> used at Chelsea.

Chelsea was a fluke, check out Oldham and Wigan for a more balanced picture.
Stop dwelling on the past and concentrate on the present - I'd rather judge
Bates on what he's done for us so far.
Judging by his record with us, he's got us relegated and into administration
- where's his next move gonna take us? Conference and liquidation?
 
>  
> When Bates took over at Chelsea they were a struggling 2nd 
> division team  
> with a shithole of a ground. When he left thay had a 
> redeveloped stadium and  
> were in the champions' league.
>  
> I repeat: Isn't that what we want?
>  

When Bates took over Leeds United they were a semi successful 2nd division
team with a lien on a fantastic piece of real estate. Now they're a
struggling third divison side on the brink of extinction. Quality work!
Is that what we want? 
 
>  
> >> It seems a tad paradoxical that following being dismissed 
> as  amateurs
> for not signing a non disclosure agreement that they had 
> indeed  signed they
> are now being dismissed for not breaking the aforementioned NDA.  <<
>  
>  
> Not by me. 
> 

Do you propose they break the NDA just to keep you in the picture and sod
the consequences?

> 
> >>What do YOU know about the members of the LUST board that  
> you can dismiss
> them so easily as 'wastes of space'? <<
>  
>  
> FFS, don't put words into my mouth. I didn't call anyone a 
> waste of space.  I 
> would like LUST to outline its plans for the club, that's all.
>
  
Do you wish that they keep you in the picture at the risk of all else?
I thought that Leeds United was your number one priority not your desire to
know what everyones plans are.
Strange how you have different criteria for LUST and Bates - you appear to
trust Bates more than LUST, why?
Have you actually read www.lufctrust.org? Why not join? It's only a fiver -
I'm sure you can afford it. You can then have your say in this democratic
and accountable organisation.
 
> 
> >>If Peter Wilkinson was to trek down the M62 to save us  
> would you dismiss 
> him
> in a similar fashion?<<
>  
>  
> Another mythical figure. Is he in the car park with his 
> cheque book too?  ;-)
Is that mythical like Ken Bates' cheque book - or is Ken's cheque book
locked up in Monaco?

Nothing mythical about about Peter Wilkinson however - owner of Hull City
and former gold member at Elland Road with the halfway line box.
At least he's paid for a ticket at ER which is more than cuddly Ken has EVER
paid into the coffers.
If you don't know who he is yourself you'd perhaps be as well to look him up
rather than be quite so insulting.

>  
> I'll take him seriously once he steps forward with a plan. 

But you'll take Bates seriously without a plan? Why?



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