OK Paul, let's dissect, as you like doing, for a moment YOUR comments. Not the Bates bit, that's been done to death. Wise. Why do you HATE (Pretty strong word) him? As a person? Just because he's a Laaarnderner? Well you know him no better than I do for a start off. Nasty little 'Cockerknee' shite on the pitch, make no mistake, but pretty fcuking good with it, very much ala Batts. But as a manager? Well, he did well at Millwall early days and did indeed take an underacheiving Championship side to the FA Cup final, with no money but admittedly a very lucky draw. Then he went to Swindon and did a fantastic job in a short space of time, starting them off a season which they ended, again admittedly for the majority of the season not under his control, gaining automatic promotion. Then he came to a club in a downward spiral (Good album from NIN BTW!) and no, he didn't miraculously turn it around. But I honestly think, from what I saw last season, he made us a better team. He made us fitter, more cohesive and more attack minded, but our luck truly ran out last season, teams scraped unlikely vistories at exactly the wrong time for us (Hull pulled victories from out of several hats last year for instance). But ultimately it wasn't good enough, in two thirds of a season. So, shenanigans aside, we are where we are. Currently 15 points adrift from everyone else without a game being played. Is that his fault? NO (Unreservedly no BTW, he has NOTHING to do with us being -15 points right now and if you argue he is, I think you're misguided). Did Wise 'take us down' well for the fact he was in charge the moment we were actually relegated, yes. But that's looking at it through purely black and white - right or wrong eyes. Wise is a player from the modern game and, as such, understands the needs of the modern footballer. He's strong minded and determined. Something that is not always a plus and that he needs to learn to channel, but dreaming aside I think he IS capable of doing a job for us and moving us upwards rather than down. I am perfectly prepared to give him the obligatory 3 months and then make a decision. I said the exact same of Blackwell and personally think it only fair of ANY manager. If, (Off the pitch rumblings aside) he MANAGES to turn out a team that is commited, plays half decent football and gives us a fighting chance of something positive this season, why not get behind him and SUPPORT him? Why condemn him off hand without looking at the whole picture and judging him by what we watch on a Saturday afternoon? It's a blinkered, slightly misguided approach, don't you think?
> Rich W asked if I was hinting that his post was pro-bates retoric - I can > assure him I wasn't > Rich's post is clearly pro-wise, I've made no secret of my hatred of Wise > and I do tend to lump Bates and Wise together - IMHO they both failed to > deliver on their promises and they are BOTH responsible for us being 15 > points adrift at the bottom of Division 3. > However Rich's opinion is Rich's opinion and he's entitled to it as much > as I'm entitled to disagree, the sheep were the half a dozen listers who > unable to make a coherent point themselves reposted the whole message > adding about 5 words. > > As for the Chav Debating Society response - if that's the best you can do > take my advice and stop wasting your time and energy when you are so > obviously out of your depth! > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org > _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org
