'Yes, a country needs armed forces to defend itself, I think thats
totally legitimate'

Funny  seems to me that not all countries are included.
Standing back & awaiting Rich!!!

Michael
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2009/11/9 Eric B <[email protected]>

> > All true Eric, but, what do you think would happen if those guys didn't
> voluntarily sign up for the forces?
>
> Maybe politicians would have to send their own sons to war?. Centuries
> of war show that the poor
> are sent to war, over and over again. I suspect if politicians had to
> send their own to war there would be less war.
>
> Yes, a country needs armed forces to defend itself, I think thats
> totally legitimate. However invading a country to save it from itself
> has been "trendy" of late. Some countries are neutral and have armies
> (sweden, switzerland) yet they are viewed as peaceful nations. Others
> use their armies more freely (its good for business amongst other
> things), some make army service compulsory for all, women and men thus
> creating a constant "state" of war. etc.
> Thats where it gets too much for me. This is my opinion and I am
> entitled to have it and post it, which brings me to my final comment:
>
> This whole debate is about someone else's opinion. Rob H. and
> everybody else here are entitled to have his opinion and to express
> it. Even if it means disagreeing of course. Its diversity. If you
> don't like diversity then have a think about what uniformity really
> means.
> I get challenged  by diversity every day too I.E., cant say I dig karaoke
> :-)
>
> Im outta here.
> Eric
>
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Simon Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > All true Eric, but, what do you think would happen if those guys didn't
> > voluntarily sign up for the forces?
> >
> > The country needs armed forces and if nobody signed up voluntarily we
> would
> > have to have conscription / national service.
> >
> > You, I and anyone else who does not want to serve in the forces needs
> those
> > guys to sign up. To say they reap what they sow is a little uncharitable.
> >
> > What bothers me about poppies is that every single person you see on TV
> at
> > this time of year is wearing a poppy. You get the feeling that every TV
> > producer is saying to their presenters, 'here, you better wear this!'.
> >
> > When you or I buy a poppy we are making a contribution to the good work
> the
> > British legion does. Are all these stars on TV actually making a personal
> > contribution for the poppy they are wearing? They should be, but I doubt
> it.
> >
> > Did every single one of those highly pampered premiership stars who wore
> > poppies on their shirts this weekend make a personal contribution to the
> > poppy appeal? If they are wearing it they bloody well should have! But I
> > doubt it.
> >
> > Si.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric B
> > Sent: 08 November 2009 20:30
> > To: Robert Heath
> > Cc: Leeds List; [email protected]; Richard Walker
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU: Poppy fascism
> >
> > I never liked or adhered to social pressure myself, so I can relate to
> > what you are saying Rob.
> >
> > Most armies today are professional (you pass a test and you re hired),
> > for those guys, like me and you, the universal law of nature states
> > you reap what you sow.
> >
> > Prior to that kids/men were taken away by their govt. and sent to die.
> > Those I feel sorry for.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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