Ward, You wrote: "> > I think that 'lumpers' who rely heavily on the detail text will have a lot > of trouble with this. >" We could see this coming, and it is why I would imagine most are like me, and extremely selective as to which Source Writer templates are used. Mrs Mills has a lot to answer for!!
Ron Ferguson _____________________________________________________________________ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _____________________________________________________________________ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue > Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 13:23:18 -0500 > > Connie, > > I had had trouble figuring this out in the past, but gave up due to the > bugs. I just experimented with the new version. Here are the results. Note > that both the master text and the detail text can be abbreviated for the > subsequent citations, as viewed on the Source Detail panels. > > Family Group Sheet: > Each footnote is the full citation text -- no 'subsequent' citations -- as > you described. I assume that this is a bug. > > Descendant Narrative Report (I am using individual footnotes, displayed on > each page.): > - The first footnote of the master source has the full text for both the > master portion and the detail portion. > - All other footnotes of the master source show the subsequent citation > form. I.e., they have the same source 'fields' omitted from the master > portion and from the detail portion. > > This is also a problem! If the detail information in a field that gets > removed is different from the first citation, it will never be seen. Example > below. > > I'm not sure what the solution is though. I have written about this before. > How should Legacy figure out that a citation qualifies a subsequent, for the > detail portion? Should it compare the text of all the detail fields for an > exact character by character match with every previous footnote from the > same master? > > Example: > As you will see, for this particular source type (Grave Markers, Rural), one > master field and 2 detail fields will be omitted from the subsequent > citation. The 3 detail fields begin with the person's name. If only I could > be permitted to use bolding and underlining. :-) > > Source Data #1 : > Footnote/Endnote Citation: > Highland Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant (Jefferson, Ohio; High Street, behind > Methodist Church), Joseph T. Walker marker, Personally read, 2008. > Subsequent Citation: > Highland Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant (Jefferson, Ohio), Joseph T. Walker > marker. > > Source Data #2: > Footnote/Endnote Citation: > Highland Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant (Jefferson, Ohio; High Street, behind > Methodist Church), Joseph T. Walker marker, This is a test of a subsequent > citation., 2008. > Subsequent Citation: > Highland Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant (Jefferson, Ohio), Joseph T. Walker > marker. > > Source Data #3: > Footnote/Endnote Citation: > Highland Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant (Jefferson, Ohio; High Street, behind > Methodist Church), Margaret S. Walker marker, Personally read, 2008. > Subsequent Citation: > Highland Cemetery in Mt. Pleasant (Jefferson, Ohio), Margaret S. Walker > marker. > > Results: > The master field text 'behind Methodist Church' is only shown on the very > first footnote for this master source. This is fine. > The detail text in the middle field of #2 and #3 is never seen. The first > footnote (for this master) in the report happens to be the full citation > from #1. The second footnote is the subsequent from #2. The third is the > subsequent from #3. > > Desired Output: > The second and third footnotes should show all the detail since it is not > identical to any earlier citation. > Even that rule is not very clear. What if there is another citation of the > Joseph T. Walker marker and the rest of the detail matches one of the above > 2 details? If the 'subsequent' form is used in the footnote, the reader > won't know what to assume for the missing fields. > Ward > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Connie Sheets" > To: > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 11:37 AM > Subject: [LegacyUG] Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue > > >> Using 7.0.0.76 >> >> My apologies if this has already been asked/answered, but I could not find >> exactly what I'm looking for in the archives. >> >> I am trying to figure out why the Master Source Subsequent Citation does >> not print as it is shown onscreen when there are multiple citations in a >> report (in this case the Family Group Sheet) to the same master source, >> but with different details for each citation. >> >> Is there a checkbox I've overlooked that I need to tick, is this a bug, or >> am I misunderstanding the standard practice for subsequent citations? >> >> Example: >> >> The Master Source shows onscreen for the Footnote/Endnote as: >> >> Illinois Secretary of State, "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, >> 1763-1900," >> database(http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriage.html). >> >> The Master Source shows onscreen for the Subsequent Citation as: >> >> Illinois Secretary of State, "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, >> 1763-1900." >> >> The first citation to this master source on a Family Group Sheet prints >> (as it should): >> >> Illinois Secretary of State, "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, >> 1763-1900,"database(http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriag >> e.html : accessed 4 Oct 2008), entry for William Holland - Jane >> Corvin; citing Tazewell Co. Marriages, Vol 00A, p. 12. >> >> The next citation (in my opinion) should read: >> >> Illinois Secretary of State, "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, >> 1763-1900," entry for Lawson Holland - Elizabeth >> Bandy; citing Tazewell Co. Marriages, Vol 00A, p. 14. >> >> but instead I get: >> >> Illinois Secretary of State, "Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, >> 1763-1900," >> database(http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriag >> e.html : accessed 4 Oct 2008), entry for Lawson Holland - >> Elizabeth Bandy; citing Tazewell Co. Marriages, Vol 00A, p. 14. >> >> I know I could probably go in to each detail screen and create an >> override, but that seems like a complete waste of my time when the >> subsequent citation format is already specified for the Master Source. >> >> What am I missing here? >> >> Connie Sheets _________________________________________________________________ Imagine a life without walls. 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