I wish I had thought to add to my previous post that Ron is clearly a Legacy
guru. Regardless of our differences of opinion regarding sourcing, he is the
go-to guy for anything about Legacy.

Janis

On 12/7/08 6:46 PM, "Janis L Gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ms. Mills' succinct and practical statement about the practicality of
> stringent standards for sourcing is most welcome.
> 
> I continue to pull for Legacy to become the academic software of choice for
> genealogists; it has much to recommend it. I drifted to Legacy (as I have
> often said) more or less by accident, from TMG. There are things I still
> miss about TMG, but the superior graphic interface of Legacy was enough to
> keep me here. Improved sourcing capabilities with 7.0 pretty further
> confirmed my choice.
> 
> I do understand that not everyone feels as I do. I am more than happy to
> live and let live. Legacy still offers the old style sourcing. But my
> "personal testimony" (can you tell that I was raised a Baptist?) is that my
> research, and my output of that research, has been immeasurably improved and
> informed by a striving to apply academic standards in the past two years.
> The work that went before I tend to view as work to be done over.
> 
> (Note the word "striving." As my husband is fond of saying, "I know what I
> am": not there yet!)
> 
> Janis
> 
> 
> On 12/7/08 6:19 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>> We could see this coming, and it is why I would imagine most are like me,
>> and extremely selective as to which Source Writer templates are used. Mrs
>> Mills has a lot to answer for!!
>> 
>> 
>> Beyond a doubt, I do, Mr. Ferguson. <g>  However, I doubt that this will be
>> one of those issues for which I will one day make atonement.
>> 
>> Standard practices for citing subsequent sources existed long before
>> _Evidence Explained._ I take no credit for inventing them--only for the
>> labor of cataloging them in a genealogical context. Indeed, those standards
>> existed long before the emergence of the great divide between lumpers and
>> splitters. 
>> 
>> The crux of the problem is this: Every software program has its peculiarly
>> distinctive architecture. Until common standards are followed by all of
>> them, we wrestle with a common problem: What works for one program doesn't
>> necessarily work for another. Beyond that, until that glorious day comes
>> when peace, harmony, and total synchronization exists, we have a few other
>> realities to live with:
>> 
>> 1. Standards for writing and documentation *do* exist for logical reasons,
>> although it would be illogical to assume that everyone will automatically
>> perceive all those reasons. Most of us learn their value the hard
>> way--whether that be through time-consuming study or costly mistakes.
>> 
>> 2. Computers and software are tools to help us perform our tasks--whatever
>> those tasks may be--according to the standards that exist for each task.
>> 
>> 3. If we believe that standards should change to fit every piece of
>> software, then we're arguing for a morass in which there are no standards at
>> all.
>> 
>> 
>> Some studies have shown that most genealogists today have been "doing
>> genealogy" for less than a dozen years. Even so, there are many who well
>> remember the state of affairs in the early-to-mid 80s, when genealogical
>> software allowed us no way to cite sources at all--no way, no place, no how.
>> When we begged the designers for some way to do this, they, too, had trouble
>> understanding those "standards for writing and documentation" we spoke of.
>> Many a time, at one conference or another, they smiled at me so tolerantly
>> before they tsked: "Now, Elizabeth. Nobody cares about documentation--nobody
>> but a few 'professionals' like you." (They even had this cute little way of
>> saying "professionals" that made it sound like a 13-letter dirty
>> word--apparently oblivious to the fact that even genealogists who help
>> others with their research have private lives in which they research their
>> own families.)
>> 
>> Today, we are blessed that brilliant developers such as Geoff, and his
>> counterparts at several other major genealogical software firms, not only
>> realize why standards for research and documentation exist, but also are
>> putting immense effort into figuring out how to make their programs produce
>> those standards. Like all of us, their efforts are still a work in progress.
>> Candid discussions in forums such as this, in which users share their
>> experiences in using those tools, helps them greatly. Debating the
>> intricacies of citation, the differences between sources, the ways both
>> effect our analysis of evidence and the reliability of our data--these, too,
>> help us toward our common goal: To find our forebears, separate them from
>> other same name individuals, reconstruct their lives, and assemble them into
>> families whose collective experiences ultimately make ourselves and our
>> world more understandable.
>> 
>> Elizabeth 
>> ---------------------------------
>> Elizabeth Shown Mills
>> (Whose ancestors have led her on a merry chase through every state east of
>> the Mississippi, half of those to the west, and virtually every country west
>> of Russia)
>> 
>> 
>> 
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