On 12 Apr 2016 at 7:40, Linda Greethurst wrote: > But I am confused with English locations; and I think I am mixing up church > and civil juridictions. In England, isn't a "parish" a larger area than just > a church building? Can there be more than one church/congregation within a > "parish" jurisdiction?
A parish can be a church division, or a civil one, and the boundaries are not necessarily the same. Also church parishes can vary in size, and some have chapelries in addition tot eh parish church. For example, some of my ancestors lived at Heatohn with Oxcliffe, in Lancashire. It was in the parish of St Mary's, Lancaster, but there was a chapelry of St Helen's at Overton, so some members of the family were baptised, married etc at one church and some of the other, and copies of the chapelry registers were sent to the parish church. So I record the church where the event took place. Born: Heaton with Oxcliffe. Baptised, St Helen's, Overton, or St Mary's, Lancaster, as the case may be. I usually put the name of the church in the baptism notes, along with names of sponsors, if known. > Example, I have a guy baptized on 12 Dec 1748 at St. Nicholas Parish, > Shepperton, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom. > That would be a church location for a church function. But what would be the > birth location if he were born in Shepperton. He wasn't born in the church > building itself as far as I know. Do I use the jurisdiction of "Hundred" > (which I haven't really figured out yet). I don't know if he was born in the > village of Shepperton, or on a rural residence. If the church residers says "Abode", he was probably born there, but they often didn't give that detail back then. If he was born in Shepperton, just say Shepperton, Middlesex. > Then he died in 1816 in Deptford, Kent, England -so now I have just three > places? Is there a smaller unit of an address to pinpoint where Deptford is > than just Kent? Not really. Back then it was probably recognisable as a village on the outskirts of london, but now it's just another London suburb. > Is "England" enough - properly? Do I need to include "United Kingdom"? I do > not use "USA" for pre 1776 events - that is not a proper location. It's adequate to just use England. The only part I feel the need to identify more closely is Northern Ireland after 1921. > So the basic questions: What are the 4 crucial "names" go into the four > slots for the civil birth location? It isn't always 4. Sometimes it's 3, or 5, or 6. When it's Bristol, I put 2 -- just "Bristol, England" -- though I'm not sure what exactly was enciompassed by "The City and County of Bristol". > What "names" go into the four slots for > the church baptism location? St Whatisnames, Town/Village, County, Country (eg England). > What other "location" information > would I need to include in the notes section? Street address, if known, name of hospital if birth took place there. > I am aware of the option to omit leading commas for easier reading to the > non-genealogist. And I know I can use more than 4 slots, but then the sort > order gets "out of sorts". Thus, what are the 4 vital names. You can sort them from bigtgest to smallest -- makes it easier. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: sha...@dunelm.org.uk Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727 Fax: 086-548-2525 -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/
