At 07:03 PM 10/13/2009, you wrote: > > >Zack Bass wrote: And you are misrepresenting Egypt. There are Laws >against the use of Violence against women who are not virgins. Shit >man, THINK! They have whores there. > >Such laws in countries with an Islamic majority are largely >'cosmetic'. They are NOT enforced. Little or nothing is done to >those who kill and mutilate women because of their sexual behavior. > > >We're not talking about the Right of a slut to be a slut without >fear of Violence. None of those using this Kit are seeking to >convince angry pitchfork-wielding mobs of their virginity. These >kits are for the sole purpose of tricking the man who is FUCKING a >slut that she is a virgin. I say that it is Fraud - a violation of >NAP - for anyone to trick a man thusly. If he doesn't want to stick >his dick in a filth-ridden hole, that is his right. If he asks, >either refuse to answer or tell the Truth; DO NOT DEFRAUD HIM. > >Zack, I think you do not understand the culture that exists in >Islamic countries. Women in such countries are PROPERTY. They are >regarded as little more than donkeys, that belong first to their >fathers, then to whatever man their father chooses for them to >marry. If a woman has sex, be it one time or a hundred times, or >however many times you think she needs to in order to become a >'slut' she will be KILLED. (and btw, how many times does a man have >to have sex before HE becomes a 'slut' I wonder. The Muslims, and >you as well, don't seem to worry too much about THAT! As for a >'filthy hole', what about a 'filthy pole? Or is that different?), > > >Either her father will kill her, or her husband will, if this is >discovered. Simply telling the 'truth' is not a realistic option in >an Islamic country. A woman there will have a husband chosen for >her, by her father. She is expected to marry him, regardless of her >opinion on the matter, and she is expected to be a virgin at the >time of marriage. Period, end of story. She has no more right in >Islamic culture to decide she would like a different husband, or no >husband at all than a donkey belonging to a particular farmer would >have to decide that it would prefer to belong to a different farmer, >or no farmer. > >Telling her father or her husband that she is not a virgin, and >remaining single, in order to avoid 'defrauding' the man, isn't >going to happen, if she has any sort of survival instinct. She will >be taken out and strangled or stoned to death.
Excellent points. One of the most basic of the principles that under lies the ZAP is that of self ownership. A society that treats humans as someone else's property is initiating. To the extent that individuals within that society enable such behavior, they can also be viewed as initiatiors.