On 03-Dec-04, Travis Pahl wrote:

 FR>>> ... Debt limits increase in proportion with deficit spending
 FR>>> increases.

 s>> Exactly. Ergo, excessive spending is the cause of raising the debt
 s>> limit.

 TP> And raising the debt limit causes excessive spending.

Wrong.

 FR>>> Travis is absolutely correct in laying the blame on the
 FR>>> GOP-controlled Congress and Executive Branch, both of which have
 FR>>> been in GOP power for the last four years.

 s>> Do you believe a Democratic Congress under President Gore would have
 s>> spent less after 9/11?

 TP> Once again... WHO CARES?...

Frank and I do.

 TP> ... We are talking about Republicans, not Democrats....

Why not?

 TP> ... It does not matter what the Democrats would do.  They are not in
 TP> power so it is kinda hard to blame them, yet you still try.

How am I blaming them, and for what?

 TP> I agree,  that spending is the problem too.  I am just not naive
 TP> enough to beleive that raising the limit does not encourage them to
 TP> increase spending.

Beleiving that raising the debt limit encourages them to increase spending is
naive, IMHO.

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