Travis Pahl wrote, in part:
> Most all
> the gun control laws were passed with republican support as well.

Travis, this is NUTS!!!

A few lousy Rs vote for something and you lump the whole party in with the
majority of Ds to imply that they are the same.  Then, you probably wonder
why no one takes anything you say seriously.

Here are the links:

AW Ban 1994:
House: Yeas: 46 R, 118 D; Nays: 131 R, 64 D.
        http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1994/roll416.xml
Senate: Yeas: 7 R, 54 D; Nays: 36 R, 2 D.
        
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=103&session=2&vote=00295

Main "Bill Status" link:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d103:HR03355:@@@X


You want something more recent?  How about this?

Sen. Larry Craig (R, BTW) introduced a bill to prevent a backdoor gun ban
enacted by attorneys suing gun manufacturers out of business.  It was loaded
up with amendments and then killed.  Here are the votes on some of the
amendments:

Sen. Feinstein's amendment to extend the AW Weapons ban by 10 years.
Yeas: 9 R, 42 D, 1 I; Nays: 41 R, 6 D
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=108&session=2&vote=00024

Sen. McCain's amendment to close the so-called "gun show loophole."
Yeas: 8 R, 44 D, 1 I; Nays: 43 R, 3 D
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=108&session=2&vote=00025

Sen. Campbell's amendment to let cops carry concealed in all 50 states.
Yeas: 50 R, 40 D, 1 I; Nays: 1 R, 7 D
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=108&session=2&vote=00026

Sen. Craig's amendment to study "armor piercing ammunition."
Yeas: 50 R, 34 D, 1 I; Nays: 0 R, 12 D
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=108&session=2&vote=00027

Sen. Kennedy's competing amendment to ban "armor piercing ammunition." Which
would have banned most hunting ammo.
Yeas: 1 R, 33 D; Nays: 49 R, 23 D, 1 I
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm
?congress=108&session=2&vote=00028

Main "Bill Status" link:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d108:1:./temp/~bdUeIg:@@@L&summ2=m&;|
/bss/d108query.html|

Who publicly pushed for Craig's original bill?  President Bush--who came out
and said he wanted a "clean bill" because the AW Ban was going to go nowhere
in the House.  Who voted against it?  John Kerry, who on March 2, cast his
first votes in the Senate for the year 2004 to vote for the killer
amendments and against the passage of the law.

Nobody's saying that Republicans are "perfectly good" or that Democrats are
"perfectly bad", but the tendency should be pretty obvious.  The Republican
party is generally pro-gun with a few dissenters and wafflers and the
Democrat party is generally anti-gun with a few dissenters and wafflers.

This coming year, the Senate MIGHT have enough votes to pass a clean (or
nearly clean) bill.  The House WILL have enough votes to go along and the
President WILL sign it.  There are very few states or Congressional
Districts where voting for a Democrat would have made that outcome more
likely and there is no chance that voting for a Democrat for President would
get this bill anything but vetoed.

The whole gun-rights story is one of incrementalism.  Steps backward were
first turned into baby steps backward.  Then, steps backward were stopped.
Then baby steps were made forward, then larger steps forward.

The possibility exists that I will live to see the day when I can carry a
concealed pistol in public in all 50 states and DC.  It will happen mainly
through INCREMENTAL changes brought by the Republican party with some
Democrat help.


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