Hello Tim, On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:25:11 -0000, "Tim Bedding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ah, so you defend the use of torture at Gitmo, not giving people >the right to have a lawyer? Is this consistent with being >Libertarian? I'm surprised a Libertarian would want a lawyer as they are about as lacking in morals and ethics as anyone. They are in it for the bucks usually, not caring about the defense of a person or FREEDOM which really is the issue >The declaration of independence says "We hold these truths to be >self-evident, that all men are created equal". HA. I recently read that when the Supreme Court meets they start each session with a prayer. I found that damned funny since in these days of PC our kids aren't even allowed to sing Christmas Carols, we say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" for fear of offending, much less bow their heads before they eat a meal and mutter an offering of thanks because it just might offend some other 4th grade kid eating his peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I have an online friend in India and we've talked at great length about his home and religion and other things. The point I find is ever person in any country I have ever spoken with are really not all that different than we are. I mean, next thing you know, a kid won't be able to eat a roast beef sandwich because the Hindu next to him might be really upset about the potential reincarnation being consumed, as we eat the blood and body of Christ at our Christian/Catholic services. >> this President has probably done more and probably will do more >> to increase freedom in this country than anyone since Reagan. >Freedom is not the same thing as security. Your next words >in support of the above are about the security of the US. If we want to remain free, we must secure our country and defend it against the White Satan hating terrorists that are waiting to die and meet a bevy of virgins.. How totally ... Well, I won't say what I think, because that is a belief. However, when someone else's belief starts stomping on my country's ground.. Screw them and their kind. >> I think Bush chose, reasonably wisely, to do a combination of the >> two with the emphasis on the former. We aren't out of the >> woods, yet. > >> But we're heading in the right direction and it appears >> that Iraq was the linchpin. > >I am not sure Iraq was the linchpin although the connections >of Iraq with terrorism were there. > >We still have North Korea, Syria and Iran on the map. > >Syria could well remain relaxed about support coming from there >for terrorism-linked organisations. Personally, I think we should explain that we are going to completely flatten the countries like Iran, Iraq, Syria etc. and let them know. Tell the good guys you better get out and get to a safe place until we are done, then you can go home and start over. I can't believe we are rebuilding for them. I don't agree with that for a minute. If we were at war (which we really are) who helped us rebuild the trade center. Sure there were people from a few other countries, but I don't think any terrorists chipped in. > >> Others will backslide, but the trajectory is clear and inevitable. > >It is far from being inevitable. Bush talking about freedom is >worrying. Does he appreciate that we have a UN security council >and not a UN freedom council? I don't believe we need the UN's permission for anything we do. I don't care if it's on our nations soil.. It's still OUR nation with our freedom and the security to preserve it. Conster.. Whose just about ready to maybe get some sleep :) _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
