Bill > If he had taken the "stand" you suggest, he'd have done worse. > The votes to the contrary would have been > even more significant and well pointed out by his opponents.
The issue is human rights. I would have wanted Kerry to take on that issue and thus distinguish himself from Bush. On December 10, 1948 the General Assembly of the United Nations adopted and proclaimed the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It would seem that you and Lowell are not too anxious to have human rights respected. Torture seems a clear step too far. The battle to win hearts and minds should continue although I agree with Frank that the current situation is not altogether inspiring in that regard. I do not know how much people here are following the UK situation but we have just adopted an act of parliament, giving the government the power to place restrictions on liberty, using intelligence reports as justification. Previously the power existed but only for foreign nationals I think. Opposition from the Lib Dems and the Tories has resulted in changes to the original bill requiring that a judge approve the restrictions but I am unclear as to whether the judge will be merely confirming that the necessary procedures were followed or will actually look at the cases on their merits and throw out those restrictions that are not justified. Regards Tim Crusade - Racing the Night Gideon: It feels like the city is watching us but, of course, that's not possible. _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw