On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 10:54 -0700, Dave Laird wrote:
> Good morning, Bill...
>
> Now, back on-topic for a change...
>
> Bill Anderson wrote:
>
> > Those are the point, you know. Want to speak pragmatically? Invading my
> > privacy would not have prevented 9/11. Period. NONE of the "tools" put
> > in place post-9/11 would have. How is that for pragmatic? The best kept
> > secrets are right in front of you, right under your nose (like a
> > booger).
>
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I keep *most* of my boogers UP my nose,
> rather than under my nose. ;-)
I prefer a tissue, but to each his own, I'm not knicking it. :D
> > So tell us, is it pragmatic to waste a buttload of time, money, and
> > effort going down paths you KNOW don't lead you where you want to go,
> > and violate people's rights and destroy lives, not to mention create and
> > foment mistrust among the populace in the process?
>
> You are absolutely right in your line of questioning, Bill. Who was it,
> Burdick-Lederer in The Ugly American, that first broached the issue of how
> we have become "soft Americans" through our dependence upon the government
> for everything, including our own security? There was another book,
> published more recently, about the philosophy of dependence, which
> stipulated that the original independence upon which this country was
> founded is a thing of the past. The author (name unknown at the moment)
> went on to state that we are being led down that road, even today.
Have you read the Peter Principle? It's sometimes difficult to remember
it was published in the 60's.
> If I am hearing you correctly, there is *always* a price for independence
> and freedom, and each person who wants to live as a free citizen must be
> willing to give everything, including their lives, in the defense of it.
> The minute we become dependent upon any external force, including the
> government, for our freedom, we have lost all rights to it. I've heard
> this paraphrased several different ways, but it always comes out sounding
> right to me.
Yup, that'sa what I'ma sayin. :)
> > You wanna talk pragmatics about security practices? Bring it on. I'm
> > equipped and prepared for an intelligent, informed discussion of the
> > facts, are you? If so, lets have a go. Pragmatism isn't just a word or
> > an excuse. You have to back it up.
>
> > Random Fortune of the moment:
> > Humor in the Court:
> > Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
> > A: Yes, I have been since early childhood.
>
> Random curiosity, is this Fortune running beneath Windows or Linux? I
> didn't know they had a version for Windows or I would have probably
> installed it everywhere in the Pacific Northwest by now. ;-)
Linux. The only windows here are made of glass and plexiglass. :D
It's an evolution script I wrote. Pulls them from my massive fortune
install .... something like 100K+ of them.
And the beat goes on ..
--
Random Fortune of the moment:
Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom.
It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.
-- William Pitt, 1783
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