* Present + Kohei, Rainer, Cedric, Lionel, Eike, Astron, Andras, Stephan, Caolan, Michael, Thorsten, Norbert, Kendy, Michael S, Petr
* Completed Action Items + task selection for LibreOffice 4 wiki: + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 + [ punted for now ] * Pending Action Items + [pending] notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern) + reviews done + make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich) + maildrop for Gerrit (Bjoern) + 3/4 done, in progress idly. + 4.0 issues (Everyone) + everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC! + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4 + crediting: can we separate tempates in the credits page (Spaetz) + [ in progress ] * Release Engineering update (Petr) + 3.6.0 update & post-mortem + all was quiet until the last two release candidates + only panicing at the last minute + was timing related / summertime ? + first-start / updating bug issue + underestimated + Stephan: bad timing, reported on Linux etc. used non-released builds between. + by chance, Michael fixed the windows build + prereg feature only used on Windows, fix for issues didn't make it into 3.6 from master. + systemic problem where people are encouraged to remove their user-installation vs. moveaside & make available. AI: + update QA FAQs / challenge answers to encourage moving profiles away instead of deleting (Rainer) + user installs can have sensitive data though, care needed - but keep that around. + non-upgrades for profiles from dev / intermediate versions + removing user-profile inconsistent data hid issues and hurt testing too + Always create code to upgrade / never advise removal of inconsistent data. + Rainer happy to help with profiles. + suggest zero tolerance policy for upgrade issues during development + could have upgrade tinderbox (Bjoern) + be nice to have some unit tests too (Michael) + most important thing to get to better tests (Stephan) + standard test for how profile updates work (Rainer) + it ~never works, but put more focus on this + the problem was so frequent people got used to it. + adopt a near zero tolerance policy for upgrade issues during development + bibisect can cause problems (Bjoern) + agree - lots of ignoring of profile problems with WORKSFORME when profiles are removed (Rainer) + should not tolerate this. + collecting user-configuration - have a script / app to dump it as a .zip ? AI: + file an easy-hack to ship a binary to dump it (Petr) + 2x days of performance issues on the main website + can cause issues + missing MSI signatures + Andras forgot; normally some RC tester checks/reports that + Thorsten added validation to upload scripts. + few native-lang projects deferred announce due to dictionaries bug + 3.6.1 RC1 + pull the timeline in - do RC1 in 1 week instead + freeze / checkin deadline on Monday + RC2 in one extra week. + fixes the upgrade bug earlier. + 3.5.6 RC2 + tagged this week / final version + builds being up-loaded / announce soon - on track. * GSOC update (Cedric) + bit more than a week to go, make students aware it's almost over + pencils down / evaluations by August 20th * UI / design update (Astron) + discussion about updated icons for gallery + ongoing options discussion + official git repo for artwork ? + should we re-use the old repository ? (no) + ongoing discussion around artwork licensing + new 'templates' repository created + can we push templates there ? + 70 new templates up-loaded to the wiki page http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Call_for_Templates + need CC0 / authenticity statements & push those to git. + intends to package Astron & Alexander's templates first (Bjoern) + and do a package release + packagers who want sexy new templates take note ... + need some macro sanity checking + Astron / Alexander to provide editorial feedback & improvement encouragement + Toolbar fixing status - on Kendy's todo. + Bjoern created some Design easy-hacks + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks_by_required_Skill#Easy_Hacks_requiring_Design_Skills * Adobe Sans Pro bundling (Caolan) + http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/08/adobe-releases-source-sans-pro-a-new-open-source-font/ + lots of positive noise about it, no problem adding it (Caolan) + no Cyrillic or Greek, perhaps bundle other fonts instead (Astron) + we have an only-ascii font currently (Caolan) AI: + re-think our bundled font list (Astron / design-team) * Call for Papers - talks @ LibreOffice con * ESC agenda - 16th day before for an in-person meeting / hack-fest + please book flights for a day earlier + http://conference.libreoffice.org/call-for-paper + co-hosting talks is fine + find a parterner for your short talk + potentially add a "15mins" to the subject if you want a short talk + please submit lightning talks too * liblangtag issues (Eike) + controversial new required LGPLv3 dependency + implements BCP47 language codes + lots of nice code cleanup possible + very simple replacement for iOS / Android + not an ideal situation + invest outside the wrapper & lets see * AOOi git import + with full OO.o history back to day one on top of OOO340_m1 http://download.go-oo.org/AOOi/ + like to push it to our git repo + adds another 40Mb of download +5% ... AI => just do it (Kendy) * bugzilla / gerrit integration (Bjoern) + concern about getting spammed a lot from calc guys.x + postpone discussion for next week. --- out of time ~everything postponed below --- * 4.0 - ongoing discussion (All) + best ideas heard so far: to do an ABI thaw for 4.0, and keep in place until after 4.1 - 1 year for ABI fixing. * QA update (Rainer) + producing a bibsect repository for Windows (Norbert) + new bug report page - with search for duplicates [!] ... * GUADEC update (Michael) * git-review thoughts (Bjoern) * gerrit update (Bjoern) + bugzilla / auto-commenting integration + filter-able changes ? ... + --new-changeid discussion * 3.6 most annoying bugs ... + 11 (of 58) older 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21 3/19 4/15 8/13 19% 22% 23% 19% 27% 31% 19% 24% 16% 27% 62% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 most annoying bugs ... + 75 open (of 253) older 77/253 73/250 72/249 67/244 70/243 73/241 72/238 30% 30% 29% 29% 27% 29% 30% 30% + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1 * 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression' + 177(-3) bugs open of 723(+3) total * ~Component count net * + Writer - 67 (-2) + Presentation - 21 (+1) + Crashes - 20 (+1) + LibreOffice - 17 (+1) + Spreadsheet - 16 (-4) + Database - 11 (+1) + Drawing - 11 (+0) + Borders - 9 (+0) + Migration - 7 (+0) + Writer / RTF - 7 (+0) + Basic - 2 (+0) + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764 + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489 -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot _______________________________________________ LibreOffice mailing list LibreOffice@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice