attached a replacement for the sbt script provided, with inline
comments for getting it to work. barely tested and trivial. not yet
verified that this works without a preexisting maven install. will
automate more at weekend.

will look into getting the blocking-on-page-load modification into
sbt/lift somehow also given that it has its own continuous compile
system.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 3:57 PM, David Pollak
<feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Alexander Kellett <lypa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:26 PM, David Pollak
>> <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > While we are a community that welcomes newbies and tries to work with as
>> > many different people and with as many different styles as possible,
>> > there
>> > are things that we've collectively learned.  We've found that Maven is
>> > preferable for our style of development.  If you want to use Ant,
>> > there's
>> > nothing stopping you and we'd welcome some Ant scripts for building
>> > Lift,
>> > but we're not going to stop what we're doing and write one for you just
>> > because you demand that we do so.  Please go back and write the Ant
>> > scripts
>> > yourself and contribute to the community rather than being rude to us
>> > because we don't do things the way you want.  That will demonstrate that
>> > you
>> > are willing to contribute in rather than demand and insult when your
>> > demands
>> > are not met.
>>
>> many people are scared by maven. myself included after my previous
>> "fun" with getting lift working.
>>
>> is there a way to get a self contained "hello world" zip up on github
>> if it is not already there? afaiu maven also allows for local caches,
>> could that that be placed in the zip, or is it simply too big?
>>
>> i think that might scare people much less than pasting the very opaque
>> four liner which asks questions i do not know the answer to :)
>
> I am all in favor of an Ant build script or an SBT-based build script.  Both
> would be great contributions.  I do not have time for them, but anyone out
> there who has skills with Ant and/or SBT, I'll buy you a beer or two if you
> spend a couple of hours putting together examples.
>
> My rant is against the attitude that somehow the Lift community should
> instantly change its priorities because one person has a different
> perspective on things.  We are not waiters in a restaurant.  We are not
> serving peoples whims.  We are a collaborative community.  Anybody who
> treats the folks in this community as wait-staff fundamentally
> misunderstands the ethos of the Lift community.
>
> The Lift community is a place that I like being because almost everybody is
> willing to roll up their sleeves and help.  Marius, Derek, Tyler, Charles,
> Jorge, Tim, etc. roll up their sleeves and help all comers.  Each of these
> guys can be making more money and/or spending time with their friends and
> family rather than helping newbies, but when they came to the community,
> they were newbies and I helped them and they have perpetuated that spirit.
>  Newbies help us by asking questions, by learning Lift, by making
> suggestions, by contributing code, and ultimately by helping other newbies.
> We welcome different perspectives, but we do not welcome insulting
> attitudes.
> Had the conversation gone more along the lines of "any chance you'll change
> your priorities to support Ant?" "Not for 1.1, but perhaps you can help." "I
> can write Ant Scripts, but I need some guidance about the dependencies..."
> The poster would have gotten what he wanted and the whole Lift community
> would have benefited.
>
> So, yes, I am in favor of lots of different build options.  Are committers,
> we have limited time and will officially support Maven.  If someone else
> comes along and demonstrates Ant, SBT, etc. support and sticks with it for a
> while, they might become the owner of that build system and a Lift
> committer.
> Thanks,
> David
>
>
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> >
>

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