Dave, As for running Banner and Oracle on Z/Linux you may want to talk to Marist. They are currently working on doing just that. We were hoping to get to work with them on that, because we too think it is a good idea but also here the Administration says we won't be running that on a mainframe. They have told us not to even pursue it. As far as I know Marist is the only one to even attempt it. Every time we asked Banner about it they said they don't support it and no one seems to want it. I am sure that when Marist gets it working, Banner will change their mind and support it.
Jim Dodds Systems Programmer Kentucky State University 400 East Main Street Frankfort, Ky 40601 502 597 6114 -----Original Message----- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:59 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again? > -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > David Boyes > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:08 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again? > > On 5/11/09 7:33 PM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote: > > > I may have some interest in zLinux around here. The usual caveat of > > [snip] > > Good idea? Or am I making it more complicated than I need to? > > Dave Gibney > > Information Technology Services > > Washington State University > > Well, it would certainly be cool to have WSUVM1 alive again...8-) Well, I pretty sure that's what we'd call it :) Unfortunately, I don't think our heydays of the past hold much with the IBM of today. Of course, I'm not even remotely a holder of purse strings. And the only way I'll be able to sell zVM and zLinux is by showing without any real doubt that it is a cost effective platform to implement potential planned ERP solution(s). And the funding for ERP is likely 2 years out. Our state funding was cut 21% for 2009-2011. After taking about a 10% cut this year. As for academic ventures, WSU's Computer Science department became a program under the College of Engineering quite sometime ago. I'm also suffering under the myth that no one is teaching "mainframe" anymore. (As an aside, I sorta resent perception. In my day :) you didn't get taught or trained much, we just dam well did the work :) In the few moments I can spare from keeping our z/OS system going and maintained (I'm still running 1.7 in the important LPARs), I need to show that Oracle (database and applications(ERP will likely be Banner or Peoplesoft) runs well on zLinux and that zLinux under zVM is cost effective in a major way over HP or Sun or other Intell farms. By the way, I never intended to imply that we would never buy zVM or additional zHardware and that I wanted to do this on the sly in the long run. I just have some (longish) short term delay. We had to cut out the Watson newsletter and are seriously looking at any way to save some pennies :( We're also very short handed do to the budget and other problems. P.S. It's been awhile Dave, I've often wondered if you were the same Dave Boyes that spent some time here. The 3090's been gone a long time now. > > Given WSU's historical relationship with IBM, I would suspect that if you > asked IBM for a loaner copy of z/VM, one would appear for a long period of > time. I think that while you *could* do VM->LPAR, it would probably be > less > hassle and more productive to try to negotiate a long-term loan. > > -- db > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390