Dave,

I would encourage you to contact some folks at NIU about PeopleSoft.
We recently migrated from our own in-house solution which we called
webconnect to peoplesoft, mostly to facilitate the surplussing of our
ESA/390s and it has been ghastly.  We have ended up with scores of
students forced to delay their graduation.  Others have had other
problems.  My advice:  If you go PeopleSoft, get their analysts in a
room, lock the door, and beat them with a clue-bat for about 2 weeks
before you let them go.

Erik Johnson

On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Shockley, Gerard C <gsh...@bu.edu> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Been running Oracle on Z in prod coming up on 2 years.
> We can SHARE any experiences with you.
>
> Gerard C. Shockley
> Boston University
> gsh...@bu.edu
>
> 617.353.9898 (w)
> 617.353.6171 (f)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
> Dodds, Jim
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:51 AM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again?
>
> Dave,
>
> As for running Banner and Oracle on Z/Linux you may want to talk to
> Marist. They are currently working on doing just that. We were hoping to
> get to work with them on that, because we too think it is a good idea
> but also here the Administration says we won't be running that on a
> mainframe. They have told us not to even pursue it. As far as I know
> Marist is the only one to even attempt it. Every time we asked Banner
> about it they said they don't support it and no one seems to want it. I
> am sure that when Marist gets it working, Banner will change their mind
> and support it.
>
> Jim Dodds
> Systems Programmer
> Kentucky State University
> 400 East Main Street
> Frankfort, Ky 40601
> 502 597 6114
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
> Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:59 AM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of
>> David Boyes
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:08 PM
>> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
>> Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again?
>>
>> On 5/11/09 7:33 PM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> >    I may have some interest in zLinux around here. The usual caveat
> of
>> > [snip]
>> >   Good idea? Or am I making it more complicated than I need to?
>> > Dave Gibney
>> > Information Technology Services
>> > Washington State University
>>
>> Well, it would certainly be cool to have WSUVM1 alive again...8-)
>
>   Well, I pretty sure that's what we'd call it :)
>
>   Unfortunately, I don't think our heydays of the past hold much with
> the IBM of today. Of course, I'm not even remotely a holder of purse
> strings. And the only way I'll be able to sell zVM and zLinux is by
> showing without any real doubt that it is a cost effective platform to
> implement potential planned ERP solution(s). And the funding for ERP is
> likely 2 years out. Our state funding was cut 21% for 2009-2011. After
> taking about a 10% cut this year.
>
>  As for academic ventures, WSU's Computer Science department became a
> program under the College of Engineering quite sometime ago. I'm also
> suffering under the myth that no one is teaching "mainframe" anymore.
> (As an aside, I sorta resent perception. In my day :) you didn't get
> taught or trained much, we just dam well did the work :)
>
>  In the few moments I can spare from keeping our z/OS system going and
> maintained (I'm still running 1.7 in the important LPARs), I need to
> show that Oracle (database and applications(ERP will likely be Banner or
> Peoplesoft) runs well on zLinux and that zLinux under zVM is cost
> effective in a major way over HP or Sun or other Intell farms.
>
>  By the way, I never intended to imply that we would never buy zVM or
> additional zHardware and that I wanted to do this on the sly in the long
> run. I just have some (longish) short term delay. We had to cut out the
> Watson newsletter and are seriously looking at any way to save some
> pennies :(
>  We're also very short handed do to the budget and other problems.
>
> P.S. It's been awhile Dave, I've often wondered if you were the same
> Dave Boyes that spent some time here. The 3090's been gone a long time
> now.
>
>
>
>>
>> Given WSU's historical relationship with IBM, I would suspect that if
> you
>> asked IBM for a loaner copy of z/VM, one would appear for a long
> period of
>> time. I think that while you *could* do VM->LPAR, it would probably be
>
>> less hassle and more productive to try to negotiate a long-term loan.
>>
>> -- db
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