Thanks, I've forwarded this to my boss, as I have many of these notes. We had the Gartner report issued last week. Didn't tell us much we didn't already know, but now its official. On the positive side, we met with our business partner, Mainline, and we may be closer to looking at zVM and IFL loaner agreements.
I just really need to finish my z/OS 1.7 to 1.9 upgrade so I have time to look at something new. My work life is a series of interruptions punctuated by short spurts of progress :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Erik > N Johnson > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:19 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again? > > Dave, > > I would encourage you to contact some folks at NIU about PeopleSoft. > We recently migrated from our own in-house solution which we called > webconnect to peoplesoft, mostly to facilitate the surplussing of our > ESA/390s and it has been ghastly. We have ended up with scores of > students forced to delay their graduation. Others have had other > problems. My advice: If you go PeopleSoft, get their analysts in a > room, lock the door, and beat them with a clue-bat for about 2 weeks > before you let them go. > > Erik Johnson > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Shockley, Gerard C <gsh...@bu.edu> wrote: > > > > Dave, > > > > Been running Oracle on Z in prod coming up on 2 years. > > We can SHARE any experiences with you. > > > > Gerard C. Shockley > > Boston University > > gsh...@bu.edu > > > > 617.353.9898 (w) > > 617.353.6171 (f) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > > Dodds, Jim > > Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:51 AM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again? > > > > Dave, > > > > As for running Banner and Oracle on Z/Linux you may want to talk to > > Marist. They are currently working on doing just that. We were hoping to > > get to work with them on that, because we too think it is a good idea > > but also here the Administration says we won't be running that on a > > mainframe. They have told us not to even pursue it. As far as I know > > Marist is the only one to even attempt it. Every time we asked Banner > > about it they said they don't support it and no one seems to want it. I > > am sure that when Marist gets it working, Banner will change their mind > > and support it. > > > > Jim Dodds > > Systems Programmer > > Kentucky State University > > 400 East Main Street > > Frankfort, Ky 40601 > > 502 597 6114 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > > Gibney, Dave > > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 12:59 AM > > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > > Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again? > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of > >> David Boyes > >> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 1:08 PM > >> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > >> Subject: Re: In an LPAR once again? > >> > >> On 5/11/09 7:33 PM, "Gibney, Dave" <gib...@wsu.edu> wrote: > >> > >> > I may have some interest in zLinux around here. The usual caveat > > of > >> > [snip] > >> > Good idea? Or am I making it more complicated than I need to? > >> > Dave Gibney > >> > Information Technology Services > >> > Washington State University > >> > >> Well, it would certainly be cool to have WSUVM1 alive again...8-) > > > > Well, I pretty sure that's what we'd call it :) > > > > Unfortunately, I don't think our heydays of the past hold much with > > the IBM of today. Of course, I'm not even remotely a holder of purse > > strings. And the only way I'll be able to sell zVM and zLinux is by > > showing without any real doubt that it is a cost effective platform to > > implement potential planned ERP solution(s). And the funding for ERP is > > likely 2 years out. Our state funding was cut 21% for 2009-2011. After > > taking about a 10% cut this year. > > > > As for academic ventures, WSU's Computer Science department became a > > program under the College of Engineering quite sometime ago. I'm also > > suffering under the myth that no one is teaching "mainframe" anymore. > > (As an aside, I sorta resent perception. In my day :) you didn't get > > taught or trained much, we just dam well did the work :) > > > > In the few moments I can spare from keeping our z/OS system going and > > maintained (I'm still running 1.7 in the important LPARs), I need to > > show that Oracle (database and applications(ERP will likely be Banner or > > Peoplesoft) runs well on zLinux and that zLinux under zVM is cost > > effective in a major way over HP or Sun or other Intell farms. > > > > By the way, I never intended to imply that we would never buy zVM or > > additional zHardware and that I wanted to do this on the sly in the long > > run. I just have some (longish) short term delay. We had to cut out the > > Watson newsletter and are seriously looking at any way to save some > > pennies :( > > We're also very short handed do to the budget and other problems. > > > > P.S. It's been awhile Dave, I've often wondered if you were the same > > Dave Boyes that spent some time here. The 3090's been gone a long time > > now. > > > > > > > >> > >> Given WSU's historical relationship with IBM, I would suspect that if > > you > >> asked IBM for a loaner copy of z/VM, one would appear for a long > > period of > >> time. I think that while you *could* do VM->LPAR, it would probably be > > > >> less hassle and more productive to try to negotiate a long-term loan. > >> > >> -- db > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > >> email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 > > or > >> visit > >> http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > > visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or > visit > http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
