Linux-Advocacy Digest #814, Volume #25 Sun, 26 Mar 00 02:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Bob Germer)
Re: Giving up on Tholen (Jason Bowen)
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Bob Germer)
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Bob Germer)
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ("Chad Myers")
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ("Chad Myers")
Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1] ("David ..")
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again) (Jeff Glatt)
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:41:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
On 03/25/2000 at 09:16 PM,
George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Actually, I generally just go outside and check for myself, because it's
> about as accurate as the weather report. How about you, do you find the
> weather report from a meteorologist to be highly accurate?
As a pilot with nearly 44 years experience and over 30,000 hours, I find
met reports very, very good for the most part; they are critical to safe
flight around the world. I have trusted my life to those reports.
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.10 Registration Number 67
As the court closes in on M$, Lemmings are morphing to Ostrats!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on Tholen
Date: 26 Mar 2000 05:51:15 GMT
I know from his inability to follow the the thread that Dave is
either mentally challenged, he couldn't understand the implicit
reference from the previous post in the thread, or antagonistic. He is
one or the other. Of course I would have to say what one or the other
was in that last sentence for Dave to understand what I am talking about
heh? That is what he is claiming, he can't follow the implicit reference.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:44:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
On 03/26/2000 at 01:28 AM,
George Marengo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>> >On the contrary, there is a difference between facts and opinions.
> Of course.
> >> They happen to carry the weight of law, but it is essentially another
> >> persons opinion.
> >
> >Are you saying that no facts were revealed during the course of the
> >investigation and subsequent trial?
> No, that's not what I'm saying. The fact is that MS broke the law. That
> OS/2 is now largely relegated to the also rans being due to MS's
> actions isn't. In the Judges findings, that's what he opined.
If the Judge finds that John Doe fired a gun in the direction of Richard
Roe and that Richard Roe is dead, his opinion will be that John Doe did
the crime. The fact is that John will spend many years in jail or possibly
be executed.
> >> because it's about as accurate as the weather report.
> >
> >On the contrary, the weather report has access to information about
> >the movement of weather systems, whereas going outside right now
> >isn't going to provide you much information about tomorrow.
> If you find your local weather reports to be more accurate than the ones
> where I live, more power to you. I have, however, found that my local
> reports to be very inaccurate.
Well, now, Georgie Boy, tell us where you live. In the past 44 years I
have landed and taken off from over 600 airports in the United States, 60
or more in Canada, a couple of dozen in Great Britain, several dozen total
in France, Holland, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Egypt, Italy, Greece,
Turkey, Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Iran, Russia,
Poland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Greenland, Algeria, Morocco, Sicily,
Sardinia, Mexico, Brazil, Columbia, Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, El
Salvador, Bermuda, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, Jamica, Cuba, Guam, the
Philipines, Taiwan, Korea, Japan, Vietnam, Laos, Australia, and New
Zealand.
With the exception of Paraguay, I found the met reports to be reliable,
the forecasts as accurate as the technology of the times allowed, the
opinions of the forecasters well founded. They are extremely accurate over
a 12 hour period, reasonably accurate over a 24 hour period. In fact,
today, throughout the United States, they can even tell within a half
hour's accuracy when conditions will change over the next 6 hours at any
major city served by major airlines or their commuter affiliates.
Inaccuracy when it occurs is most frequently due to the unavailability of
sufficient data regarding storms over the oceans adjacent to our
coastlines. This is also true throughout Europe and eastern Asia, Japan,
etc.
Your criticism of the US Weather Bureau, Accuweather, AWS, etc. is totally
refuted by the facts. Every day, the accuracy of longer term forecasting
is becoming more accurate as more ocean bouys are activated, more ship
reports are obtained, satellite technology advances, etc. Typhoons
(hurricanes) remain the biggest wildcard in forecasting. Our understanding
of them is increasing exponentially as we plant those ocean reporting
bouys. We can now give warning of approaching tornados 15 or more minutes
before they strike in most instances.
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.10 Registration Number 67
As the court closes in on M$, Lemmings are morphing to Ostrats!
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:01:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
On 03/26/2000 at 02:14 AM,
When in LA said:
> If you tune into TV forecasters you will find a big falling off of
> forecast accuracy from the real meteorologists who actually man the
> weather stations, run the forecast models, etc. I dislike listening to
> TV meteorologists except to see the latest pictures. Tuning in my
> internet connection to the Oxnard weather service station though, I get
> the good forecasts that hold up quite well when probabilities are
> figured in.
For the most part, I agree with you regarding talking heads at local TV
outlets in many cities I have visited. However, here in the Philadelphia
metropolitan area, we have a staff of very highly trained and qualified
meteorogists with the very latest doppler radars at the NBC outlet. One of
the team, Glenn Schwartz is known as Hurricane Schwartz because of the
years he spent in the NOAA hurricane research center. The station sponsors
more than 50 on-line remote reporting stations in Pennsylvania, New
Jersey, and Delaware in conjunction with AMX in Maryland. They have, and
use, at least a half dozen or more computer models and create their own
forecasts which prove more accurate over a 6 or 12 hour period than the
NOAA forecasts.
Also, the ABC affiliate is tied in with Accuweather which is usually a bit
more accurate than NOAA. Until recently the CBS outlet had as its chief
met guy a former Navy pilot who was a trained meteorologist and also did
extremely well day to day.
Now, in the Washington and Baltimore markets, the locals are not so good.
Ditto for New York with the exception of WNBC.
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12
MR/2 Ice 2.10 Registration Number 67
As the court closes in on M$, Lemmings are morphing to Ostrats!
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:15:43 GMT
"George Marengo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:24:01 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> Bob Germer wrote:
> >> You were right the first time. I was unable to comprehend the
> >> Findings of Fact because I found them to uninteresting.
> >
> >Just as I said: you're not interested in the facts but rather in what
> >someone thinks.
>
> The facts referred to are the legal opinion of a Judge. They
> happen to carry the weight of law, but it is essentially another
> persons opinion.
Rather misinformed and directed opinions I might add, too.
He claimed that Apple, Linux, and several other competitors were not
serious competitors in the marketplace, which is clearly incorrect.
In cases like this where a Judge falls asleep alot.. er.. I mean when
the Judge isn't an authority on the subject, he will formulate an
opinion based on what seem to be some dumbed-down facts and then essentially
copy-n'-paste his Findings of Fact directly from whichever sides he's currently
siding with's fact submittal. This is common occurance and is usually a good
thing, except in this case.
It's unfortunate, because the Judge had his mind made up in the first place.
I mean, the whole investigation was questionable from the day the FTC
recommended
the Justice Department (Janet "The Butcher of Waco" Reno's DOJ) not proceed with
an investigation. But that's a-whole-nother story...
-Chad
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:24:41 GMT
"Bob Germer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:38dda78b$2$obot$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > If you find your local weather reports to be more accurate than the ones
> > where I live, more power to you. I have, however, found that my local
> > reports to be very inaccurate.
>
> Inaccuracy when it occurs is most frequently due to the unavailability of
> sufficient data regarding storms over the oceans adjacent to our
> coastlines. This is also true throughout Europe and eastern Asia, Japan,
> etc.
>
> Your criticism of the US Weather Bureau, Accuweather, AWS, etc. is totally
> refuted by the facts. Every day, the accuracy of longer term forecasting
> is becoming more accurate as more ocean bouys are activated, more ship
> reports are obtained, satellite technology advances, etc. Typhoons
> (hurricanes) remain the biggest wildcard in forecasting. Our understanding
> of them is increasing exponentially as we plant those ocean reporting
> bouys. We can now give warning of approaching tornados 15 or more minutes
> before they strike in most instances.
Sounds good and all, but it's still quite frequently (every other week or
so) that I hear "99% chance of rain and thunderstorms!" and there
is no thunderstorm, there's a little bit of thunder, and it rains in a few
parts of the state, but there's no thunderstorm or high winds, etc.
Maybe one day, perhaps.
-Chad
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Windows 2000 has 63,000 bugs - Win2k.html [0/1] - Win2k.html [0/1]
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:32:03 -0600
Roger Blake wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:52:38 -0800, jdaspinw
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The simple truth is that Microsoft makes a damned fine
> >operating system, and if you can't run Windows without
>
> No they don't. I've used a large number of OSes in the last 20+ years,
> and Microsoft's are the worst I've ever dealt with in terms of stability,
> performance, and security.
>
> --
> Roger Blake
> (remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
Almost sounds like he is on the M$ payroll or their band wagon one.
After win95 who needs M$?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:01:42 GMT
George Marengo writes:
>>>>> No, I'm not a die-hard supporter of any OS. The OS is simply a means
>>>>> to an end for me -- using software that I want or need to use.
>>>> Then what is your participation in this newsgroup for you?
>>> I didn't say I don't advocate particular OS's from time to time.
>> You did say that you gave up on OS/2.
> Correct.
So what's the interest in this newsgroup due to?
>>> I said I'm not a die-hard supporter; i.e., I will switch an OS when
>>> my needs dictate that I should do so.
>> What a novel concept. I've been telling people to use the right tool
>> for the job for years.
> Great, then we at least agree on that.
Is there something we don't agree on?
>>> My posting to os2.advocacy was because I didn't notice that
>>> someone had cross-posted to nt.advocacy.
>> Correction: postings. Multiple instances of "didn't notice"?
> Of course I noticed in subsequent messages, but by then I
> was caught up in the dialog. Do you make it a habit to post to
> *.nt.avocacy?
No, but I do believe that responses should reach the same audience.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:06:36 GMT
George Marengo writes:
>>>>> Bob Germer wrote:
>>>>>> It is quite obvious that you are totally unable to comprehend the Findings
>>>>>> of Fact. They clearly, absolutely, unequivocally, without question, beyond
>>>>>> a shadow of a doubt contradict what you state above. That makes what you
>>>>>> said a lie. That makes you a liar.
>>>>> You were right the first time. I was unable to comprehend the
>>>>> Findings of Fact because I found them to uninteresting.
>>>> Just as I said: you're not interested in the facts but rather in what
>>>> someone thinks.
>>> The facts referred to are the legal opinion of a Judge.
>> On the contrary, there is a difference between facts and opinions.
> Of course.
So why did you call "facts" a "legal opinion"?
>>> They happen to carry the weight of law, but it is essentially another
>>> persons opinion.
>> Are you saying that no facts were revealed during the course of the
>> investigation and subsequent trial?
> No, that's not what I'm saying. The fact is that MS broke the law.
Is that what you call a "legal opinion"?
> That OS/2 is now largely relegated to the also rans being due to
> MS's actions isn't.
Isn't what?
> In the Judges findings, that's what he opined.
Is that what you call a "fact"?
>>>> Tell me, when you want to know whether it's going to rain tomorrow,
>>>> do you ask some random person what they think, or do you consult a
>>>> meteorologist for some facts?
>>> Actually, I generally just go outside and check for myself,
>> How can you determine by going outside right now whether it's going to
>> rain tomorrow?
> Very easily. The weather pattern for Southern California generally
> brings comes from the north west
I'm not familiar with "comes" used as a noun.
> -- what's out there today will shortly get to my house tomorrow.
Illogical, given that weather patterns tend to move something like
30 mph, thus you'd need to be able to see 720 miles away. That's
over your horizon.
>>> because it's about as accurate as the weather report.
>> On the contrary, the weather report has access to information about
>> the movement of weather systems, whereas going outside right now
>> isn't going to provide you much information about tomorrow.
> If you find your local weather reports to be more accurate than the
> ones where I live, more power to you.
In comparison to what some random person thinks, they are.
> I have, however, found that my local reports to be very inaccurate.
Compared to what some random person thinks?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Glatt)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Giving up on NT (Bob shows his lack of knowledge yet again)
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 07:11:20 GMT
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Bowen)
>In article <tj9D4.13327$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Jason Bowen writes:
>>
>>>>> O.K., lets change the subject then. What do you think these numbers mean
>>>>> for OS/2?
>>
>>>> Which numbers, Jason? You didn't retain any numbers in your follow-up.
>>
>>> I'm sorry that you can't remember them
>>
>>I can remember lots of numbers, Jason. Why do you think I asked about
>>which ones?
>
>The ones that followed from our thread. Do you have trouble following
>that?
>
>>
>>> since you provided a source.
>>
>>You didn't specify any source when you asked your question, Jason.
>
>You can't follow a thread?
>
>>
>>> According to the source that YOU provided OS/2 brought in $92 million
>>> towards IBM's bottom line.
>>
>>Which directly answered George's question about where the numbers came
>>from. If only you could be as direct.
>
>If only you could follow a thread.
>
>>
>>> This is OS/2 advocacy isn't it.
>>
>>Incorrect; it's answering a question directly.
>>
>>> Wouldn't you like to talk about that?
>>
>>I already accomplished what I set out to do, Jason, which was to
>>answer George's question. Was there something inadequate about
>>my answer that needs further discussion?
>>
>So you don't want to talk about OS/2 in the OS/2 newsgroup?
He is here for the express purpose of attempting to harass people
whose opinions he doesn't happen to like. It is precisely this which
got him in trouble with the University of Hawaii for abusing their
facilities
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