Linux-Advocacy Digest #814, Volume #32 Thu, 15 Mar 01 07:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux Joke (GreyCloud)
Re: No problem with multiple GUI's (Karel Jansens)
Press Release: LUGFEST IV - Uncle Tux Wants You! ("Ilan Rabinovitch")
Re: Scientist and Engineers Rail at PC Industry (GreyCloud)
gates messiah (Anonymous)
Re: gates messiah (Bloody Viking)
Re: Mindless suicide! Rediculous Dumbasses! (Bloody Viking)
Re: gates messiah ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The Double Fucking ala MS... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software (Peter
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=)
Re: Computing Power to Peak SOON! (WAS: Moore's Law, continued...) (Stuart Krivis)
Re: Customising Wrap-Up Screen. (WAS: "It is now safe to shut off your ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Computing Power to Peak SOON! (WAS: Moore's Law, continued...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Linux Joke
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:08:01 -0800
Michael Vester wrote:
>
> J Sloan wrote:
> >
> > GreyCloud wrote:
> >
> > > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:42:10 GMT, J Sloan wrote:
> > > > > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >It's not exactly useless - it's great for making RH 7 programs.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's alpha software. I wouldn't use it for anything.
> > > >
> > > > Whatever. you scream "alpha" but in fact it is fully
> > > > functional, fully supported, and works wonderfully.
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, and Redhat haven't helped by releasing the CVS snapshot
> > > > > (2.96 ? No such release. 2.96 was the code name for the CVS
> > > > > snapshot that Redhat pretended was a legitimate release)
> > > >
> > > > Cygnus was a division of RHAT last time I checked.
> > > >
> > > > jjs
> > > >
> > > Oh, Its alpha all-right! Even Sun microsystems won't give it as freeware on
> > > their site.
> > > Its still 2.95.2!
> >
> > Say, is it true Sun finally includes traceroute with solaris?
>
> No
What version of Solaris do you have? I have traceroute in my version.
> >
> > How about top?
>
> No. My Slowlaris at work is quite featureless compared to Linux.
Its free for the download.
Slowlaris... Hmmm , must be using a very old processor then.
> >
> > Alpha means "unsupported, unreleased, missing features,
> > buggy, not quite beta, do not use in production environment"
> >
>
> An open source definition. Microsoft has another expression for what you
> describe, "production release."
>
> > OTOH gcc 2.96 is fully supported, full featured, and production
> > quality. The only real gripe is that if you use gcc 2.96 to compile
> > C++ programs, they aren't binary compatible with programs
> > compiled with earlier releases of gcc.
> >
> > boo freaking hoo.
> >
> > So when your program is good to go, make a source rpm.
> >
> > Problem solved.
> >
> > jjs
>
> What's the big deal supporting various versions of source code over
> different compiler releases? Did it in the dos days with just batch
> commands and include directives. It is prudent to do so with all compiler
> releases. Linux can make it automatic except for a bit of initial effort.
> Are there programmers out there blindly upgrading their compilers.
> committing their entire code base to it without being able to roll it all
> back? Do losedos advocate programmers know how to "test" new compilers?
> Is there a need for a source code configuration management section in Mr.
> Paperclip(tm)?
>
> --
> Michael Vester
> A credible Linux advocate
>
> "The avalanche has started, it is
> too late for the pebbles to vote"
> Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
Go back to Suns' web site (actually not that well designed to get what
ones wants to look at) and read the many changes even inside Solaris 8
since Feb. 2000 to Jan. 2001.
They are actually working hard and lowering hardware prices. I'm still
pestering them
to lower their compiler prices. I like the Linux software lineup and
then I also like
the solidarity of Suns' documentation. I've taken some linux app
sources and compiled them under sol 8 and they work fine. And there is
Lxrun that allows one to run linux apps directly. I have to admit that
the linux movement has taken a big chunk out of Suns' hide and woke them
up.
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From: Karel Jansens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No problem with multiple GUI's
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:53:14 +0000
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> says...
> > Please copy and paste the following sentence after every one of your
> > replies:
> >
> > **
> > I don't care.
> > **
> >
> > This should conclude my participation in this subthread.
>
> So when the going gets tough, you back down.
>
Allow me to rephrase, then.
Linux works for me; it works for many many others as well; linux is not
a commercial product, it requires attention from its user; I feel no
compelling reason to waste my time arguing with someone who apparently
insists that others do everything for him, and if they don't, starts
whining how linux is still not Windows yet.
Better?
But, if it makes you feel better (and Bog knows you need that!): Yes,
I'm backing down.
--
Regards,
Karel Jansens
==============================================================
"You're the weakest link. Goodb-No, wait! Stop! Noaaarrghh!!!"
==============================================================
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From: "Ilan Rabinovitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Press Release: LUGFEST IV - Uncle Tux Wants You!
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:40:05 +0800
The Simi-Conejo Linux Users Group will be holding LUGFest IV on April 21st and
22nd, 2001, in Simi Valley, California.
A LUGFest is an opportunity for Linux users to demo Linux (or other Open
Source operating systems), Linux applications, attend seminars, and BOF (Birds
Of a Feather) sessions. Additionally, Linux vendors may participate and
show off their wares.
LUGFest III was held on October 28, 2000, and was a great success.
(See http://www.sclug.org/members/notes.cgi?date=10-28-2000-LUGFest3).
Approximately 350 Linux enthusiasts and a number of vendors attended over the
course of the afternoon.
We had people come from Orange County, Santa Barbara, Santa Clarita, the
South Bay area, all points in between, and also from out-of-state. Many Linux
vendors donated stuff for giveways and raffles. Vendors who came with their
wares were VA Linux, SGI, LinuxCare, LinuxBoxen, Mandrake, Parasoft, VMware,
Cobolt, LinuxSolve, Corel, Loki Games, Cosmo Engineering and Andern.org
If you have a special skill with Linux or a Linux application, or if you're
a Linux vendor who would like to show off his products, SCLUG would love
to have you participate in LUGFest IV! SCLUG is also looking for speakers on
Linux, Open Source, or other related subjects.
Due to the continually growing attendance from LUGFest to LUGFest, we've
changed the LUGFest to a two-afternoon event so more people can attend.
For more info, to register for LFIV, or to volunteer to do a demo, contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED], or visit http://www.lugfest.org
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Scientist and Engineers Rail at PC Industry
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 01:41:22 -0800
CR Lyttle wrote:
>
> Slashdot published the following link to a story about the ACM meeting
> in San Jose this week:
>
><http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/cn/20010313/tc/scientists_engineers_rail_at_pc_industry_1.html>.
> Most of the complaints were about MS Software and iMac hardware. No
> complaints in the story were about Linux. However, has anyone has done a
> marketing survey to see what features Linux should provide for the
> Engineering/Scientific communities and for the consumer community? We
> spend a lot of time in this group bashing MS and talking about what is
> "intuitive" and what isn't, but I haven't seen any studies showing that
> Linux distributions are any better. Has anyone set up computers in a
> mall to see if the public likes Windows, KDE, or Gnome better?
>
> --
> Russ
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
> Home of the Universal Automotive Test Set
> Linux Open Source (GPL) Project
AHH! Now you're talking!
Our linux group put up a few PCs at our local mall and also held an
install fest.
The majority of the public have never heard of linux and when exposed to
linux
they really liked how it worked. Some were even surprised at the idea
of using an
older PC that ran slow and still have performance. Our area is mostly
military, so
we have a large Engineering community. What we've found so far was the
lack of
a full fledged fortran 95 compiler that is low cost. Most want to make
sure that
these compilers meet IEEE, ISO, and ANSI standards. A lot of the
engineers are now
switching to low cost alternatives as Linux or Solaris 8 x86, but most
tend for Sun
hardware now that the prices are falling. They still like VAX fortran
the best, however, as a lot of code was developed on dec hardware. If a
comparable and reliable
fortran processor was available from the linux arena at a low cost, then
I fell that
compaq will have to reconsider their pricing.
Comparing the different guis in public was a mixed response.... everyone
was familiar
with windows, a lot of them preferred KDE and Gnome over windows (a
mixed bag there).
The biggest response or question had to do with the O/S crashing. One
person asked me
if linux gave the BSOD, in which we told them that linux has no such
screen. But,
as things are, people are still sceptical about linux and wanted to know
if such and such game was available for it. Most of the public just
wants games. Mind you that this showing was more oriented to an
installation how-to than a formal survey. I'm just relaying what I've
heard.
Hope this helps. I may recall some comments if you have any questions.
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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 03:15:03 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gates messiah
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anonymous wrote:
>
> > "Masha Ku' Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You know, the really scary thing about Charlie's enthusiasm is that it feels
> > > so much like the "You GOTTA be saved, Jesus LOVES you!.." enthusiasm of some
> > > religious sects.
> > >
> > > Or is "Linus loves you," more accurate?
> >
> > windows is a pretty cool system. easy to install and easy to use. i like
> > it just fine.
>
> Nah, you say that because you don't have anything else
> to compare it to.
i've used a mac.
does that count?
> I used to think that way too, but after
> learning about Unix, I don't think windows is cool at all...
having to deal with unix taught me to count my windows blessings.
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: gates messiah
Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:15:46 GMT
Anonymous ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: having to deal with unix taught me to count my windows blessings.
: jackie 'anakin' tokeman
And having to deal with Windows taught me to count my UNIX blessings.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Mindless suicide! Rediculous Dumbasses!
Date: 15 Mar 2001 11:20:56 GMT
Charlie Ebert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In article <Y5Gr6.1424$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
: Awe..... I'm sowwwy Ewik....
: But Evolution has been in use by most people within the Linux community
: for 5-6 months now. Where have you been????
: Did a big bear eat your brains again poop head?
Speaking of evolution, A bear eating Erik's brain would get an ursine Darwin
Award. Doesn't that "Evolution" package also come with that "Bonobo"
package?
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: gates messiah
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:25:12 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anonymous wrote:
> >
> > > "Masha Ku' Inanna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > You know, the really scary thing about Charlie's enthusiasm is that it feels
> > > > so much like the "You GOTTA be saved, Jesus LOVES you!.." enthusiasm of some
> > > > religious sects.
> > > >
> > > > Or is "Linus loves you," more accurate?
> > >
> > > windows is a pretty cool system. easy to install and easy to use. i like
> > > it just fine.
> >
> > Nah, you say that because you don't have anything else
> > to compare it to.
>
> i've used a mac.
> does that count?
>
> > I used to think that way too, but after
> > learning about Unix, I don't think windows is cool at all...
>
> having to deal with unix taught me to count my windows blessings.
Comparing a 1980's version of Unix with late 1990's version of Windows
is idiotic.
Try comparing windows to version of Unix from the same time, and
a fair analysis of usability will ALWAYS...I say again ALWAYS....come
down in favor of Unix.
If you're going to insist on making comparisons to an *OLD* command
line ONLY version of Unix, then, to be fair, your comparison must
be with MS-DOS.....which puts Microsoft in such a bad light, it's
pathetic.
Unix in 1980 was far more advanced AND USABLE than late 1990's M$-DOS.
And Unix GUI's in 1990 were far advanced AND USABLE than current versions
of M$ Windows.
Or are you typically in the habit of comparing late-model Chevrolets
with 1950's Cadillacs as a basis for declaring Chevrolet to be the
manufacturer of superior automotive products.
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Double Fucking ala MS...
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:40:05 -0500
Dale Curran wrote:
>
> My friend,
>
> you sit there in ultimate judgement upon the Gates product as an all knowing
> computer god.....
> what you fail to recognise is what windows does it does better the linux
> ......... AT THE MOMENT.
>
> i am a newbie to the worlds most awe inspirring O/S and many years ago I was
> a newbie to windows .... which one was easier to set up and even more
> importantly KEEP going .... windows thats what it is designed for .... sure
> it crashes like a bitch but when you reboot your computer in the morning at
> least you know everything is (90% of the time ) gonna be there
>
You're joking, right?
Windows ROUTINELY loses drivers and applications when it crashes.
Conversely, I have NEVER seen a Unix system lose applications, system
libraries, or files in general during a system crash UNLESS it the
crash was caused by disk drive failure.
Bill Gates is claiming that "code decays" to explain away the tendancy
for Windows systems to get self-inflicted cancer from user-level programs
constantly fiddling with registry settings, haphazard replacement of
DLL files, and generally fucked up code that causes internal deadlock
conditions resulting in BSODs or outright crashes.
How often do you have to reinstall Windows? 12 months? 6 months?
3 Months? Even the supposed model of stability, LoseDOS Neutered Technology
typically fucks itself so badly that 6 months of daily use = unusable system.
Conversely, in 18 years of using Unix, I have *NEVER* had to reinstall
a Unix system that wasn't the victim of a catastrophic failure of the
hard drive with the root filesystem.
NEVER.
> HAVING said that, I want the Linux community to show me the error of my
> ways.... show me and all the newbies out there that Linux IS better will GET
> better and will utterly decimate the crap that is MSWindows !!
Just open your eyes.
>
> Let me give you a chance .... I have just installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 to a
Mandrake really dropped the ball on *THEIR* 7.2 release.
> partition of my HD. It seemed to set up fine .... SEEMED ... when i rebooted
> and entered for the first time I perplexed to find that I (as any user on
> the system) have NO ACCESS RIGHTS to ANY removable media (floppy and 2
> CDROM's) even though they were mounted. I investigated only to find that I
> couldn't change any access rights for a few reasons ...
>
> One very big one is I cannot in any way open a terminal in KDE2 as every
> single time I try the machine turns into your so hated Windows machine and
> god forbid locks up...completely.
>
> So I try's the GUI setup interface .... nothing ! It won't let me change a
> thing....
>
> aghhhhhhhh ... I love the idea of Linux and when it is working it really
> does live up to its name AND MORE.
>
> So please help this newbie see the light
> Thanks
Mandrake 7.2 is a really fucked-up release. They have been
chastized interminably for this.
Of course...with Linux, you have a *CHOICE* and can select another
vendor. When you discover problems with M$ Windows....which alternate
vendor can you turn to?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.int-property,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman what a tosser, and lies about free software
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 12:55:52 +0100
JD wrote:
> Jumping in:
>
> I'll estimate that the number of people who don't understand the
> side-effect of GPL are similar (within a few percent, highly
> correlated) to those who think that the GPL is a license of free
> software.
>
You can include me in that count. I did (apparently false) assume
that I can link to GPLed libraries without making my own program GPL.
Since it looks that this is not the case, I did abort yesterday a port from
a windows-suite of software which will never be disclosed in source,
because the source is the only means to protect the knowledge in a
very rare field I am working in.
I will look if feasable to do without GPL-code, if not, the Linux-version
will not exist, not now, never.
Peter (working with linux)
--
The social dynamics of the net are a direct consequence of the fact
that nobody has yet developed a Remote Strangulation Protocol.
Larry Wall
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Krivis)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computing Power to Peak SOON! (WAS: Moore's Law, continued...)
Date: 15 Mar 2001 06:51:58 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 04:46:03 GMT, SoneoneElse <SomeoneElse> wrote:
>I agree that the limit will soon be reached, but consider this.
>Last I looked PowerPCs at a comparable speed did not require
>the cooling that PII's did. The fact is that as bad as MS is at
>producing slow bloated software, so too is Intel at producing
>inefficient microprocessors.
Motorola seems to have reached a speed plateau for other reasons. IBM
does not seem to have the same problems, but they also don't seem very
interested in selling Power chips to the desktop market.
But this could still be a viable direction for the free unices. LinuxPPC
is already pretty capable on PowerMac hardware.
I have only had experience directly with a 180 MHz PowerPC 603e. It is a
tiny little chip that has a couple of fins. There isn't a huge fan
creating a draft directly over it either. A Pentium at that speed would
have cooked itself in minutes.
I have to wonder why Apple hasn't made more out of the low power
consumption of the PowerBooks. Intel and Transmeta are fighting a little
war, but Apple should be able to win without even trying.
--
Stuart Krivis
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Customising Wrap-Up Screen. (WAS: "It is now safe to shut off your
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 06:58:48 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Nigel Feltham ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Linux has changed a lot in those past years hasn't it - I recently
> : reinstalled my 1994
> : vintage copy of slackware on an old laptop out of curiosity and was amazed
> : at the
> : differences :-
> : No loadable modules (only a 1.0 series kernel),
> : only 2 window managers (fvwm and twm),
> : display limited to 640x480 (I was using a 1997 laptop so no suitable display
> : drivers - no framebuffer either in those days),
> : Tricky configuration (remember configxf86 - not up to xf86config standards),
> : limited diskspace (no LBA support so limited to 500mb on IDE drives),
> : Limited applications
> : No ELF binaries (not introduced until 1.2 kernel).
>
> : On the plus side it is still more reliable than Win9x (and win3.1 - the
> : only MS gui available at
> : the time).
>
> That must be one ancient Slackware distro. 3.0 had the 2.0.0 kernel, which had
1994 to be exact :-) (see top of his post).
> loadable modules.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computing Power to Peak SOON! (WAS: Moore's Law, continued...)
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 07:00:52 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Scott Gardner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Another interesting use for Everclear--As you may know, dogs like the
> : taste of automobile antifreeze, and will drink it, given the chance.
as do birds, cats, children, and other critters....
> : Antifreeze (the ethylene glycol, to be more specific) does horrible
> : damage to the dog's liver in a very short amount of time. It was
> : discovered that the same bonding sites in the liver that absorb
> : ethylene glycol also absorb regular ethyl alcohol (of which Everclear
> : is a particularly pure example). So, an efficient and effective
> : treatment for antifreeze ingestion is to set the dog up on an IV drip
> : of Everclear, and pretty much keep the dog drunk out of its mind for a
> : few hours. This will keep the liver busy absorbing the ethyl alcohol,
> : and the ethylene glycol will pass out of the dog's system without
> : being absorbed by the liver. Funny to watch, too!
>
> Or, put the Everclear in the antifreeze so the dog won't drink the antifreeze
> in the first place. Booze as a glycol antidote isn't all that great.
Hmmmmmm, I wonder which is cheaper...glycol or everclear....
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