Linux-Advocacy Digest #716, Volume #26 Sat, 27 May 00 13:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux ("Drestin Black")
Re: Who is Linux hurting the most ("Drestin Black")
Re: Who is Linux hurting the most ("Drestin Black")
Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000 (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Microsoft W2K lack of goals. ("Drestin Black")
Drestin Black, more proof of the success of OSS (Salvador Peralta)
Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers. (JEDIDIAH)
You need to reset your antennae; you're not getting the signals from MS clearly.
(was IBM finally admits OS/2 is dead, officially.) (Jack Troughton)
Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers. (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers. (JEDIDIAH)
Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 (JEDIDIAH)
Re: democracy? (Praedor Tempus)
Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 (JEDIDIAH)
Re: OSWars 2000 at www.stardock.com ("Brad")
Re: OSWars 2000 at www.stardock.com ("Brad")
Re: There is NO reason to use Linux...It just STINX (JEDIDIAH)
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:37:35 -0400
don't expect to see much more of linux at dell soon... a little birdy thus
spoketh...
"Donal K. Fellows" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8glpk7$8gj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Drestin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > there are obviously not enough of them... he probably works for a linux
ipo
> > that is now being forced to do something other than make claims...
>
> They seem to be trying to recruit people to work on sorting out Dell
> preloads of Linux.
>
> Donal.
> --
> Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- I may seem more arrogant, but I think that's just because you didn't
> realize how arrogant I was before. :^)
> -- Jeffrey Hobbs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is Linux hurting the most
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:39:02 -0400
"dakota" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Drestin Black"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >didn't you know? they all work for free and give away
> >everything they write
> >for your company to everyone else in the world cause they
> >steal^H^H^H^H^Hborrow code from other open sores(tm) projects
> >to create
> >theirs anyway.
>
> If someone wants to work for free and give away source code
> that's their business. When source code is written from scratch
> it is not borrowed or stolen. I believe you are mistaking the
> Open Source community with Meglasoft. You and simon777 need to
> run back to daddy bill where you belong.
>
> >
> >Are there any paid linux programmers? besides, I didn't know
> >there was a
> >language called "linux" - I thought it was a kernel.
>
> Its an Operating system.
Linux itself is a kernel, distributions are OSes.
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Who is Linux hurting the most
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:39:19 -0400
"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Drestin Black wrote:
>
> > didn't you know? they all work for free and give away everything they
write
> > for your company to everyone else in the world cause they
> > steal^H^H^H^H^Hborrow code from other open sores(tm) projects to create
> > theirs anyway.
> >
> > Are there any paid linux programmers? besides, I didn't know there was a
> > language called "linux" - I thought it was a kernel.
> >
>
> I'm a Linux programmer and I do not work for free and I do not steal code.
Of
> course, you wouldn't survive for 10 minutes where I work.
>
> Gary
>
hahahahaaha
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.lang.basic,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: QB 4.5 in Win 2000
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 20:35:47 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting Arclight from alt.destroy.microsoft; Sat, 27 May 2000 15:16:35
[...]
>That sounds like a faulty installation of windows & office, if it were
>bugs in office, I'd have experienced them.
That sounds like pathetic apologist bullshit. If it was coherent
thoughts in your words, I'd have understood them.
--
T. Max Devlin
Manager of Research & Educational Services
Managed Services
ELTRAX Technology Services Group
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-[Opinions expressed are my own; everyone else, including
my employer, has to pay for them, subject to
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft W2K lack of goals.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 11:45:21 -0400
again, check what the word "exists" means.
Data center exists, it's all I've claimed and that is indisputably true.
"Christopher Browne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:24jX4.127100$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Drestin Black would say:
> >"Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> Drestin Black wrote:
> >> > Datacenter exists today.
> >
> >The release of Datacenter has been delayed until July/August.
> >
> >Perhaps I can refer you to your dictionary on the meaning of the word
> >"estimated"
>
> Perhaps we need to thrash you with the clue stick marked "released."
>
> There may be a beta edition out there somewhere, which is neither here
> nor there. It's not _real_ until it MSFT actually decides to
> _release_ it.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/>
> Rules of the Evil Overlord #199. "I will not make alliances with those
> more powerful than myself. Such a person would only double-cross
> me in my moment of glory. I will make alliances with those less
> powerful than myself. I will then double-cross them in their
> moment of glory." <http://www.eviloverlord.com/>
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From: Salvador Peralta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Drestin Black, more proof of the success of OSS
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 08:48:18 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Our favorite M$ troll uses OSS every time that he posts to Usenet.
Trying 207.126.101.30...
Connected to www.supernews.com.
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 01:35:14 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.5.0 OpenSSL/0.9.4
Last-Modified: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 05:38:40 GMT
ETag: "5a08c-d56-38e439e0"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 3414
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html
SuperNews, aka Remarq is an open source shop and has been since its
inception in 1995. NT simply can't handle the type of volume they deal
with.
--
Salvador Peralta
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.la-online.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:51:44 GMT
The regular varieties of blaster cards work fine
in Linux. The Live version kind of works but all
features are not there yet.
Try sndconfig to set up a non-live soundblaster.
Mandrake 7 supports the live version on install.
On Sat, 27 May 2000 07:15:30 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete
Goodwin) wrote:
>You're saying SoundBlaster hardware cannot be used properly in Linux? Isn't
>SoundBlaster the most commonly known name in Sound card circles?
>
>>> >I dont believe you.. We have done a dusin or so installs of Mandrake,
>>> >Redhat and Corel on different machines and never encountered a problem.
>
>Oh yeah, I tried installing Corel Linux. It hung during installation.
>
>Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:58:06 GMT
On 27 May 2000 09:12:13 GMT, Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.hardware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>: On 26 May 2000 20:22:21 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>: wrote:
>
>: I want to print. Very simple concept. Blank paper goes in this nice
>: little tray and comes out with all of this writing on it.
>: Very simple.
>
>That's nice. Do you want everyone in the universe to be able to print,
>or just you? Do you want to print to just that printer, or to others
>too? Do you want to print postscript? Text? Graphics?
>
>Your "print" concept is rather fuzzy. The truth is that you don't know
>exactly what you want to do. That's normal.
>
>What you need to do is configure your system to "print" to your printer
>in a sense that you will later recognize. I suggest you read the
>Printing-HOWTO and get to it!
Just running printtool would be sufficient if his printer
is supported. His printer being supported is the big IFF.
[deletia]
>: The Windows world does not speak Postscript, and judging by the size
>: of Ghostscript for Windows, it's a good thing.
>
>Then that's windows problem. The rest of the world has always spoken
>the STANDARD page layout language. If you have a printer that does
>not understand it, translate the postscript into what your printer does
>understand using the appropriate filter. Ghostscript probably has it.
[deletia]
>Then you have no experience. Mine extends to hundreds of machines and
>installations.
>
>: Plug in card (Linksys PCI) and away it goes. Check off printer sharing
>: and instant network.
>
>Same in linux. Except somewhat faster, since you don't have to check
>off printer sharing. That would already have been enabled in your
>smb.conf. Or not. Look at ksamba and check it on if not.
Current Linksys packages even include linux source on the
driver disks. Although, they could have packaged it a bit
more reasonably.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Troughton)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: You need to reset your antennae; you're not getting the signals from MS
clearly. (was IBM finally admits OS/2 is dead, officially.)
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 15:35:01 GMT
On Sat, 27 May 2000 14:47:45, "Drestin Black"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>WELL, IT'S FINALLY official: OS/2 is dead. IBM announced recently that the
>product once dubbed the "better Windows than Windows" has reached the end of
>the line and will be phased out within a year, beginning with the client
>version, which will see its last update, or "fixpack" in IBM-speak, in
>January 2001. Then the server and Workspace on Demand versions will be
>updated for the last time in May 2001. After that, support for selected OS/2
>products will be offered only on a special-bid, fee-based system. Like the
>Mac OS, OS/2 suffered dramatic and irreversible marketshare losses when
>Microsoft released Windows 95 in 1995
>
>http://www.wininformant.com/display.asp?ID=2745
Now there's a neutral source for you.
I suppose the convenience packs for warp client (to be released in
november of this year and next year) on software choice indicate that
warp is no more; after all, IBM releasing new versions on CD with any
necessary fixes and a boatload of new features annually for a
subscription fee must mean that warp is dead.
Interestingly enough, there are no supporting URLs to any announcement
by IBM saying "warp is dead" in the "WinInfo Short Take" about this.
On the front page of wininformant.com I found an ad for the exchange
add-on "Mail Essentials" which can "Block all VB Script mails at the
server level!" Considering how you're taking their announcement of the
"death of warp" (how many times have I heard that) I found the ad kind
of amusing; after all, it's only exchange and outlook which have
problems with email trojans due to MS's bad design of their mail
software. I guess for those who don't like to think that there may be
other ways of doing things with computers that it's kind of comforting
knowing there are people out there who are going to take care of you.
For a price of course...
Personally, I prefer software that was designed well in the first
place. Funnily enough, it's usually cheaper as well as better than the
offerings from MS that perform the same functions. How much is
exchange server again?
While you're enjoying the MS press's take on the recent changes in the
status of warp, make a search on the web for eComStation. You might be
surprised to discover where else warp is going.
BTW- why did you include cola in this? This seems quite clearly
(considering who you are, what the source your citing is, and the
subject) at most strictly a windows/warp advocacy thread.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:01:17 GMT
On Sat, 27 May 2000 03:14:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 27 May 2000 01:48:57 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 May 2000 00:42:30 GMT, Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>Typical lost cause jedi reply. No wonder even the
>>>Linux camp wants you to quit advocating for them.
>>>
>>>1.Have not seen a printer that is not supported
>>>under Windows and that includes 1985 variety dot
>>
>> I never claimed that there were printers that AREN'T.
>
>No that is hat you are doing implying, by omission, your usual method,
No. I'm merely pointing out the problem of "the better idiot".
Build an idiot proof system and a better idiot will come along.
>that a person can easily set up a printer under Linux but can't answer
>"ok" 4 times to do it under Windows.
>
>Sorry but you are dead wrong here.
No, you're just willing to defend Microsoft to absurdum.
>
>Proof?
>
>Comp.os.linux.setup.
Win9x has it's own share of hapless newbie traffic.
[deletia]
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Fun with Brain Dead Printers.
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:02:34 GMT
On 27 May 2000 08:05:39 GMT, Marada C. Shradrakaii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Tell me about it. The HP 612 inkjet on my desk at work takes several
>>minutes to print a single black-and-white page of TeX.
>>
>
>I have one of those... works fine under Linux, although I'll be the first to
>admit it isn't the zippiest thing (especially if you're doing colour) the
>Windows drivers (ironically) are true garbage. There is NO reason I shouldn't
>be able to both type and print and get smooth performance.
I think that's just a rebadged HP540C if I am thinking of
the right printer. I've had one of those (happily working
under Linux) for ~5 years.
[deletia]
--
In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:06:55 GMT
On Sat, 27 May 2000 07:18:59 GMT, Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mig Mig) wrote in <8gmni0$2um$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Simply because every installation i have done since RH 5.1 have not given
>>me any problems at all.. i have done many of those on RH , Mandrake and a
>>few Corel Linux... Not one time was there a problem...and this even on a
>>network. So allow me to be skeptical
>>
>>Try that with Windows!
>
>I'm always getting problems installing Linux on my older machine, as it has
>ISA cards in it.
>
>I had no problems with Linux on the new machine, as it is all PCI.
>
>I've had fewer and fewer problems installing Windows over the last few
>versions. The last time I had problems was with NT 4.0 and that was just a
>five minute hang. Since then, I've had no problems at all and I do a lot of
>installations.
>
>The fact is Linux is lagging behind Windows because every hardware
>manufacturer is producing drivers for Windows. Anything done for Linux is
>always an afterthought.
You are contradicting yourself actually.
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In what language does 'open' mean 'execute the evil contents of' |||
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From: Praedor Tempus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: democracy?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 10:19:38 -0600
Francis Van Aeken wrote:
>
> Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Francis Van Aeken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> > -do you understand the difference between representative democracy
> > and mob rule?
>
> I believe we should get rid of the middle-men (the politicians), at least
> in the long run. I don't think such a system has to be as crude as mob
> rule.
[...]
Direct democracy would SUCK. You would have religious rightwingers and
idiots (the majority of the public) voting on things based on knee-jerk
reaction, gut feeling, ignorance, and intolerance. It is better to
have the Rep who's job is to get informed on all the topics that come
their way (no way the general public can...they have fulltime jobs
of their own). The public in general would only be interested and
"informed", so to speak, on a VERY few items that they hold to be
paramount.
'Tis better to have a system, as well, that _specifically_
protects against the tyranny of the majority (which is what it would
be). The majority is NOT always right, nor should it have its way
in many cases.
As has been posted, if it were simply majority rule, there would
NEVER have been desegregation, an end to lynchings in the south,
gays would not be permitted to LIVE, there would be required,
enforced religion, no freedom at all on the internet, no controversial
books for sale, etc.
The general populace is FAR to parochial, ignorant, short-sighted,
and knee-jerky to rule directly. The Reps are there to do the
job of learning a LOT about all the issues that come their way
(and they hire persons to aid in this). It is simply not possible
for the general populace to handle that as well as carry on their
day-to-day lives.
praedor
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:11:00 GMT
On Sat, 27 May 2000 07:24:08 GMT, Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH) wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Like what exactly? (giving up that is)
>
>Unreal Tournament
>Quake III Arena
>...other games...
>
>Some of these are on Linux aren't they? Tell me, do they support 3D sound?
Heavy Gear II does.
UT and Q3 happen to be among some of the few titles alread ported
to Linux. If they are your short list then games hardly constitute
a 'show stopper' for you.
>
>Borland Delphi (coming soon as Kylix on Linux!)
>Visual C++ (I'll stop chocking in a minute)
>Netscape 4.7
I'm running Netscape 4.7 right now actually... It's not any more
crash prone than IE5 on NTW4. Opera makes they blow bloody chunks
on any platform of course.
>"The Bat" (a mail reader)
>XNews (a news reader)
>Paint Shop Pro
>CorelXara
>Microsoft Word (eek! I like the cat! I'm really sad!)
...as if all the other Win32 major word processors couldn't
fill in just as easily. (including ones that run on Unix).
This insistence on ignoring several other perfectly viable
options always annoyed me about WinDOS culture.
>Anti-aliased fonts
>
>What I won't miss from Windows 98 SE (not Windows 2000):
>
>The dreaded blue screens; the hangs on shutdown (a known bug in Windows 98
>SE); the erratic paging of the whole system...
>
>Pete
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From: "Brad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.be.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: OSWars 2000 at www.stardock.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:14:28 GMT
"Eric Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <ihGX4.6337$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brad"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Windows 98:
> > Well, this has to get covered as it's the most widely used desktop OS in
> > the
> > world sadly enough. The Big Mac is probably the world's best selling
> > hamburger but probably not the world's best burger <grin>. Win98 is the
> > big
> > mac of OSes. It gets the job done for most people but not much else.
>
>
> I don't know much of what the OS/2 and Linux folks see, but as for what
> goes on in comp.sys.mac.advocacy, it seems all the Microsoft advocates
> have pretty much given up trying to make arguments that Windows 98 is
> worth using. All we really heard about in csma, for a fairly long
> period before W2K came out, was NT. And now all we really here about
> from the Windows folks is Win2k.
>
> Maybe Windows ME will change that? ;-)
Windows 2000 IS NT.
Why is someone who advocates MacOS a Mac advocate but if someone likes
Windows NT they're a "Microsoft" advocate. I don't consider myself an
advocate of either one and if anything, I think I would be firmly in the
"Microsoft detractor" area.
Brad
>
> --
> Eric Bennett ( http://www.pobox.com/~ericb/ )
> Cornell University / Chemistry & Chemical Biology
>
> "They should commence by beating their employees."
> -Microsoft Spokesman Adam Sohn, in a failed attempt to be funny, after
being
> asked how companies should respond to the Love Bug threat
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From: "Brad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.be.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: OSWars 2000 at www.stardock.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:14:28 GMT
"2:1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In your list-of-os-that-should-be-included you didn't include any of the
> UNIX os (such as FreeBSD, which some people swear by).
I didn't include the Amiga either. But more to the point, the number of
people using FreeBSD as a *desktop* OS is probably very very small. Do you
have any figures on how many people are using it for their daily desktop OS?
Brad
>
>
>
> Brad wrote:
> >
> > After months of playing around with the various operating systems I've
> > managed to complete OSWars 2000, the follow-up to OSWars '98.
> >
> > The article is at:
> > http://www.stardock.com/stardock/articles/oswars2000.html
> >
> > The Topics included are:
> >
> > Macintosh:
> > I didn't think it was fair to cover MacOS X (server) or the currently
> > available desktop version of MacOS with Aqua coming out relatively soon.
So
> > I'll do a follow-on when MacOS X with Aqua is available as I think Mac
users
> > will like how that turns out. I think that MacOS X with Aqua has a good
> > chance of luring many PC power users over to the Macintosh. I know as a
> > software developer, the events on the Macintosh recently have been
pretty
> > exciting.
> >
> > Linux:
> > I gave Linux the most space this time around because it's the hardest
one to
> > cover fairly. Linux has so many really incredible strengths but has
many
> > weaknesses that are, unfortunately, not clear cut. To some people, an
OS
> > that requires reasonably compotent computer users to operate is a good
thing
> > wheras to others it's a bad thing.
> >
> > Windows 2000:
> > Windows 2000 got covered as it's the latest version of NT and it's
actually
> > turned out pretty well for the most part. It's the OS I am running as I
> > type this. If Microsoft wasn't such a bastard I think they'd hear more
> > people patting them on the back for their efforts.
> >
> > Windows 98:
> > Well, this has to get covered as it's the most widely used desktop OS in
the
> > world sadly enough. The Big Mac is probably the world's best selling
> > hamburger but probably not the world's best burger <grin>. Win98 is the
big
> > mac of OSes. It gets the job done for most people but not much else.
> >
> > OS/2 Warp:
> > Some people might question including OS/2 in this at this point but my
> > background is in OS/2 and I'm pretty fond of the operating system (I
still
> > run it on a few machines around here). Its main problem is that its
parent
> > wants it to go away and has made it increasingly clear that they want it
to
> > go away. But many of the users of OS/2 simply won't let it because it
> > actually is a pretty terrific operating system even by today's
standards.
> >
> > BeOS:
> > Be was smart to release the personal edition. I don't cover BeOS a
great
> > deal though but I think it's a fine OS.
> >
> > The full article is pretty lengthy. You can email me any questions or
> > comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to my personal address
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] BTW, my opinions reflect my own and not of my
> > employer, this is purely for the enjoyment of my fellow OS fanatics. ;)
> >
> > Again:
> > http://www.stardock.com/stardock/articles/oswars2000.html
> >
> > Brad
>
> --
> The day of judgement cometh. Join us O sinful one...
>
> http://fuji.stcatz.ox.ac.uk/cult/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JEDIDIAH)
Subject: Re: There is NO reason to use Linux...It just STINX
Date: Sat, 27 May 2000 16:15:51 GMT
On Sat, 27 May 2000 03:16:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>And let's see you fit the entire Liza game in 256 bytes on paper tape.
>
>Floppies are dead, in case you haven't noticed. Although Linux seems
>to embrace antique technology quite well.
They seem to be hanging on quite well enough. They still remain
THE widest used standard external storage medium. Linux can still
get good use out of them.
If other OSes can't then that's their inherent problem, not Linux's.
>
>
>On 26 May 2000 20:33:07 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
>wrote:
>
>>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>ypical Linux bullshit...Config, config, config and waste more time
>>>with each config.
>>
>>So, let's see you build a windows configuration that will
>>fit on a floppy and do something useful. Perhap act
>>as a router...
>>
>> Les Mikesell
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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