Linux-Advocacy Digest #880, Volume #27 Sat, 22 Jul 00 21:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Linux ap't vs. Micorosoft (was: Re: If Microsoft starts renting apts (was: If Micr
(Tim Palmer)
Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows? ("Drestin Black")
Re: Hardware: ideal budget Linux box? (Re: I'm Ready! I'm ready! I'm (Bloody
Viking)
Re: Am I the only one that finds this just a little scary? ("Drestin Black")
Re: The real faux paus of the U.S. military... (was Re: The Failure of the USS
Yorktown) (Steve)
Re: What I've always said: Netcraft numbers of full of it ("Drestin Black")
Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows? (Gary Hallock)
Re: Am I the only one that finds this just a little scary? (Gary Hallock)
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From: Tim Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Linux ap't vs. Micorosoft (was: Re: If Microsoft starts renting apts (was: If
Micr
Date: 22 Jul 2000 20:47:17 -0500
LIE-nux Apt's v2.4.0.BETA.0.0.0.1
WINDOW
The apt comes with no outside walls at all, but it comes with brick's and mortar,
and panes of glass,
and a short summery of how to bild with them, so you can built in as many windo's
as you want.
LOOK AND FEEL
It comes with no look and feel in partickueller, but residdants are aloud to
have any look and feel they
want as long as they bild it themselves.
SUPER RESIDENT
Certain tasks can only be peformed by the Super Resident. The Super Resident
can move into and out of
any appartmant he want's.
ILLECTRICITY
The illectricle sistim was built by thousands of amateur illectritions, and
it isant finnished yet and
thear might be a few short cirkit's hear and thear. The wall sockets fit European
plugs, so you'll have
to throw away all your American illectricle appliances and go to Europe to by
new ones.
If all the lites in your house go out, you are encouraged to take apart the
walls and fix the short
cirkit yourself. All our illectritions are busy fixing other bilding rite
now,
whear there mistakes are causing constint problems.
By doing this, you
will also restore illectricity to your neighbors. Keep in mind that
you nead to become the
Super Resident before you can fix anything that is part of the apt.
TELEVISION
For some reason, regular tellevisions don't work in the Lixnu Apt's. Only the
Netscape TV will work. Unlike
a normall TV, the Netscape TV doesa'nt have the fixed frequencys of each channle.
Instead, it homes in
on the strongest signle to determin the frequency. It can take as long as 10
minnutes to switch from
channle 4 to channle 5 this way. If you touch the TV, you might maik it loose
the frequency, in which
case, it has to "rehome" the channle.
TRASH
Every Resident get's an R-M wand. Whattever the end of the wand touches is instantly
vaperized. It is
not the responsibbillaty of Red Hat Apt's if you vaperize your dog, your girlfrend,
or your Netscape TV.
TENANT MAINTENANCE
Appliances in your apt will sometimes, for no reason, stop what their doing
and dump a "core" on the
floor. Forenstic evidence in the core can be exammin'd by a labbertory specialist
to figure out why the
core was created, but you are incouraged to do the lab work yourself. Some appliances
will leave cores
that cannot be vaperized with the R-M wand unless your the Super Resident.
PEST CONTROLL
Ressidant's are incouraged to exterminnait any bugs they find themselve's.
SECURITY
This is an Open Doors appartmant complex. Since there are so manny people wacthing
for inntruders, there
is no nead for there to be locs on the doors. You are incouradged to run your
own closed-circut cirvalence
demon (CCCd) and spend all your free time watching the taps that were recorded while
you were out or sleaping.
NEWSPAPER
Ressidant's get the LIE-nux Inquieror. Because our printing pres doesnt' work,
the articall's are all
starecas'ed. There are no picchors in the Lie-nux Inquieror, and the text is
reely raggid-looking.
On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 21:02:13 -0400, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>All of this discussion about Microsoft renting apps with .NET
>got me to thinking...what are we facing if, in fact, Microsoft
>does start renting apts???
>
> Microsoft Apts 2000
>
>WINDOW
>
>No apartment may ever have more than one window. Residents might
>forget which window they were looking out of and get confused.
>
>The window will be open, all the time, even in the dead of winter,
>because marketing discovered that most people want the window open.
>
>APARTMENT SNAPSHOT TRANSMISSIONS
>
>When you arrive home each day, a security camera will photograph you,
>and send a picture to Microfoft Headquarters. It's for your own good.
>
>LOOK AND FEEL OF YOUR APARTMENT
>
>Residents are not be allowed to change the curtains, nor hang blinds
>in the window. Microsoft has already provided the most popular
>window. Shut up and be thankful you have a window.
>
>THE BLUE LIGHT OF DEATH
>
>Some times, you may find all of your normal lights have shut off
>and your entire apartment is suddenly filled with a blue light,
>with a strange message is written on the wall, like "Illegal Fork
>in Virtual Device 0x0BEDB00F." This indicates that a rodent or
>ghost in your system has died...or maybe not...actually, we don't
>know. Don't bother to call the manager, he won't know why, either.
>Simply leave your apartment, come back in, and usually, the lights
>will come back on. If the lights don't go back on, you can always
>try having replacement furniture delivered, as that seems to help.
>
>Nobody knows why this shit happens, but you should consider normal.
>[Why??? Because if we've kept your head filled with low expectations
>for this long...why should anything change now?]
>
>APARTMENT FORMAT SERVICE
>
>If your lights STILL do not come back on, management provides a
>Format service. When a resident requests Format C:, a man with
>a flame thrower will come to your apartment, and incinerate the
>entire contents. After the flames die out, you can begin reinstalling
>your apartment, You can install new copies of your old furniture, and
>everything will be just like before, only better, because that arm
>off the old couch--you remember the one that your nephew accidentally
>removed...it will be back when you re-install your couch. Not only
>that,
>but all of those old photo albums and billing records and stuff...you
>really don't need all of that old clutter around, anyway.
>
>
>Also, it is improper to put anything away in the usual fashion.
>For example, if you get a suit back from the cleaners, just wad
>it all up in a ball, and throw it into he middle of the room.
>The jacket, might, for example, end up on a chair, and the vest,
>hangingon your sink faucet and your pants in the dishwasher. If you
>have a game...NO PROBLEM...just throw the box up in the air, and
>the board, and all the cars and pieces will land SOMEPLACE. The
>point is...you don't have to worry about that right now!
>
>When your apartment gets too cluttered, simply call management to
>come defragment your room. Be careful not to move anything while
>management is defragmenting your room, or they will have to start
>the entire process all over again. We advise going shopping for
>more furniture for your apartment.
>
>
>PARTITIONING YOUR APARTMENT
>
>Although it is possible to "partition" your apartment, by reducing
>the size of the C: room to make rooms D:, E:, F:, etc... Microsoft
>advises against it. Why do you need unnecessary walls in your
>apartment? Microsoft advises having everything in one big room
>Everything....the kitchen sink, the refrigerator, your bed,
>your medicine cabinet, even your toilet. One big room, with
>one window and your Microsoft curtains. That's all you need!
>
>TRASH
>
>Also, every Microsoft apartment has an expandable dumpster.
>When you put some object, like, the toaster your little brother
>broke and you had to re-install.... the OLD, broken toaster can
>be conveniently stored in the dumpster in case you want to get
>it back again. As time goes on, you might notice that your
>apartment is getting smaller and smaller. Actually, that' not
>the case...when you put something into the Microsoft dumpster,
>it actually stays in your apartment, and so, with time, your
>trash can keeps getting bigger and bigger, filling up a larger and
>larger portion of your apartment. So, if you ever want that stupid
>old broken toaster again....even months later....just look in
>your dumpster, it's still there, right inside your apartment.
>
>ELECTRICITY
>
>All electrical outlets conform to the Microsoft Plug-1 API. The Plug-1
>API uses only ONE terminal; the other electrical contact is a ground
>strap which you attach to the metal floor with screws. In a few years,
>the Plug-4 specification will be released. Plug-4 sockets will be
>fully backwards compatible with Plug-1 appliances, but slight
>increases in blown fuses will be a risk.
>
>AIRWAYS EXPLORER
>
>The 60Hz wave will be processed by Microsoft Power electrical
>converters. Power(tm) converters will make sure that critical
>harmonic frequency components (120Hz, 180Hz, 240Hz, etc.) will
>be boosted to proper levels all the way into the Megaherts range.
>Any interference with the resident's personal radio or tv set
>purely incidental, and is not evident of any malicious intent
>against residents who insist upon not using our fully integrated
>Microsoft Airways Explorer 5.0.
>
>STRUCTURAL INSTABILITY
>
>Of course, it goes without saying that like all residences Microsoft
>Apartments 2000 are built in an earthquake zone which lies on a flood
>plain in the middle of a tornado alley along the path of Atlantic
>Hurricanes. That's just a fact of life of having a building to live
>in. Just remember, Microsoft Apartments 2000 are 50 times more stable
>than Microsoft Apartments 98. Our current estimated uptime for a
>Microsoft Apartment is 90 days between structural collapses.
>Don't worry though, Microsoft Deckscan will search through the
>ruble of your apartment and reposition most things for you.
>All broken objects, or those which have fallen out of various
>drawers will be neatly lined up by the front door, and placed in
>gift-wrapped boxes with tags reading "Object001._DD" "Object002._DD"
>and so on. That way, even if an important screw from your somewhere
>inside your dishwasher falls out, you know EXACTLY where it is...
>right next to your front door.
>
>SCRIPTING
>
>
>The use of scripting, such as user-programmable microwave ovens is
>strongly discouraged. However, for a mere $300, you can buy a
>microwave that cooks chicken, and for another $200, you can buy a
>another microwave that thaws meat properly. If you want a microwave
>with a temperature probe, THAT will cost you $700...but it won't be
>able to cook chicken nor thaw meat properly.
>
>
>RENTER MAINTENANCE
>
>Even though Microsoft Apartments are completely intuitive, and
>don't need any maintenance, some users like to purchase Norton
>Janitors, or Norton Janitorworks 2000. NJW has neat things, like
>a Norton Doctor, which tells you how much space you've used in
>your apartment, and what day it is, and how cluttered and
>disorganized you are.
>
>APARTMENT MAIL SERVICES
>
>Recently, Microsoft has invented a new communications technique
>called "mail" Microsoft MAIL allows you to send and recieve objects
>to/from other apartments. Allegations that Microsoft purposely
>installs in our Apartments(TM) substandard sheetrock that harbors
>and sustains viruses found in mail--usually originating from
>pakistan and isreal, is, in fact, a blatant falsehood. Microsoft
>Apartments are completely protected ag ...ahg...ahg...ahchoo!
>
>
>POWER RENTERS
>
>You will see many owners of Microsoft Automobile. This family of
>products is easily identified by the use of Polygon Technology.
>Microsoft Wheel 2.0 has 8 sides and 8 corner, and Microsft Wheel97
>has 20 sides and 20 corners.
>
>Microsoft has discovered that increasing the number of sides and
>corners of a Wheel increases its stability and reduces the likelihood
>of control-difficulties that lead to crashes.
>
>
>
> Microsoft WheelsPT*
> Rolling Resistance (Ergs/Meter)
>
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> | |
> | |
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> | |
> | |
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> | |
> | \
> | |
> | \
> | |
> | \
> | \_
> | \___
> | \______
> | \_________
> | \_______________
> | \_____________
> |
> +--+----+-+----------+---------+---------+---------+--------+
> 0 3 8 10 20 30 40 50 60
> A B C D
> Polygonality.
> (Sides + Corners) / 2
>
>As can be seen in in the graph above, wheels using large numbers
>of both sides and corners are the most efficient.
>
>Microsoft Wheel 1.0 (B) used an 8-sided polygon, as this is the
>break-even point and further investment in more sides could not be
>justified on cars and trucks with limited resources typical of that
>time. By increasing the number of sides and corners to 20 each in
>Microsoft Wheel 2.0 (C) rolling resistance has been cut in half.
>Microsoft Wheel2001 (D) will feature 60-sided wheels, for a further
>reductions in road noise, vehicle vibration and both driver and
>vehicle metal fatigue.
>
>Other auto-part suppliers may tell you that a tire only needs one side,
>and zero corners. Such tires, however, are very cheaply made, AND
>very costly to use. Viewing the graph above, one can see that the
>rolling resistance approaches the Y-axis asymptotically, which means
>that 1-side + 0-corner lie at the extreme left end of the graph.
>(1 + 0)/2 = 1/2. Our research show that below a polygonality value
>of 7, rolling resistance rises sharply. Other manufacturers'
>wheels have a polygonality of ONLY ONE-HALF(!!!!) and thus, have
>tremendously high rolling resistance.
>
>
>Additionally, circular tires give drivers less control. With
>Microsoft WheelsPT, the full flat side of a Wheel(tm) makes contact
>with the road surface as it bumps down the highway, giving the
>driver very high traction. In contrast, round tires give road
>contact on only an extremely small part of the tire.
>
>Also even parked cars with circular tires are dangerous! Other
>manufacturer's automobiles which don't use "Polygon Technology"
>require the use of an additional, difficult to use gadget called
>"brakes." Microsoft feels that the use of circular wheels is
>extremely dangerous, because if the user forgets to use the brake
>after parking, the damn thing might roll away!
>
>To protect all Microsoft Apartment 2000 residents, Microsoft prevent
>the use of these dangerous automobiles NOT equiped with safe Microsoft
>Wheels(tm) by Microsoft Apartment residents or their guests and their
>visitors, All parking spaces have 3-foot tall steel pillar in the
>middle of the parking space. Non-conforming automobiles will not be
>able to park; but Microsoft Automobiles have a special channel
>allowing your car to be safely parked in the parking space.
>Improperly parked cars will be towed and crushed.
>
>FRUIT TREES
>
>Microsoft Apartments all feature Microsoft FRUIT trees. Microsoft has
>conducted extensive research into this subject, and determined that
>everyone prefers fruit based on Delicious technology. Anybody spreading
>unfounded accusations that Microsoft Delicious is a poor implementation
>of the Macintosh technology can hash it out with our lawyers in
>Microsoft COURT(TM).
>
>
>
> _
> / \
>| |
> \_X Someone told me about HOUSES--isn't that a better deal?
>
> ^
> /_\
>/ \ Rumors that some Linus guy and his friends are practically
>giving away land, upon which you can build your own house are to be
>taken with a bag of salt. Besides, houses are old technology.
>Sure, you can have multiple people in your house at the same time,
>and the toilet and cooking areas are in seperate rooms, and there
>are usually individual bedrooms for keeping your own stuff while
>still sharing the house with other people in your family, and a
>nice big yard that's all your own, and a basement to store stuff,
>and everyone can share the stereo but...who needs all that
>oldfashioned stuff when you can have Microsoft APARTMENT with the
>Microsoft WINDOW! If you buy a house, then you have to plant your
>own trees. Do you know how expensive it is to hire someone to plant
>an acorn!?!? Not only that, but in a house, there is no gardner to
>mow your lawn at 3:00 in the morning, providing you with a nicely
>fresh-cut lawn when you wake up, either that, or you must hire a
>gardner yourself, and have fun trying to find one who is willing
>to come cut your lawn at 3:00 AM! At Microsoft, we've solved that
>problem for you, so you can a good night's sleep, every night.
>
> _
> / \
>| |
> \_X Doesn't that HOUSE system have less bugs?
>
> ^
> /_\
>/ \ Rumors of bugs in Microsoft Apartment 2000 are
> [STOMP!] highly exagerated.
>
>
> Microsoft
> Where do you want us to go today?
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
>
>C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
> sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
> that she doesn't like.
>
>D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
>
>E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (D) above.
>
>F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
> response until their behavior improves.
>
>G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>H: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows?
Date: 22 Jul 2000 19:50:04 -0500
"The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
<snip>
> Ye gods; strings to do endianity flips? Try this one:
> I'm not sure which one would be faster or is cleaner, but both would
> beat your string handler.
Ghost and everyone else - HONESTLY! I wasn't trying to win an award or make
the singular most efficient function. I looked at it, and hammered out the
quickest way I could think of. brute force and ugly, yep. Works, yep. Just
had to prove the point that it could be done. THAT'S ALL! As I wrote
elsewhere, these kind things I hate doing because of precisely this. it
would not have matter WHAT code I wrote, someone can always comment: "oh,
you are stupid, you could have done it this way instead." :)
Anyway, yes, string for math - lame to be sure, but, I never do endian
operations, ever. So, I just did the quickest thing I could think of. That's
all...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
Subject: Re: Hardware: ideal budget Linux box? (Re: I'm Ready! I'm ready! I'm
Date: 23 Jul 2000 00:52:14 GMT
Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Maybe the test equipment didn't have sufficient airflow THROUGH
: the case, and/or around the CPU (ribbon cables dangling right around
: the CPU can cause overheating problems).
Without sufficient cooling, a CPU will not merely slow down but plain STOP
instead. I've had it happen with a K-6 and earlier with the Commodore 64.
Overheating will stop a CPU dead in the water. Plain and simple. Do you have a
clock speed throttle (a potentiometer to control a voltage controlled
oscillator) on your computer or what? Sure would be funny to have a computer
with what looks like an aeroplane throttle to control speed so as the room
gets colder you can rev it up.
The CPU speed is determined by the clock oscillator. If the CPU overheats,
something will have to slow the clock or it will lock up, much like a car
engine will seize upon severe overheating. (like loss of coolant) If your
computer has a heat sensor on the CPU and it is hooked to a voltage controlled
oscillator for the clock, then excess heat will slow down a CPU. Otherwise it
will either run or lock up until cooled back off. Obviosly, you don't know any
mechanical engineering and have no expierence with overheating CPUs.
--
DANGER: Charles Darwin is the lifeguard of the gene pool. Swim at own risk.
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I the only one that finds this just a little scary?
Date: 22 Jul 2000 19:53:02 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8la2i1$5ha$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> For the hardware. They don't say anything about system availability.
>
> In other words, Drestin wrote
>
> There are vendors selling W2K solutions with 99.999% uptime - just
> like the other *nix vendors.
>
> and has yet to name a single such vendor.
>
Bernie - it's the same thing. You are splitting hairs. Do you really think
they are stupid enough to offer 99.999% but you can't access the machine but
it's still running and consider that "up"? Please... I did what you asked
and you can't accept it. You should.
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From: Steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: The real faux paus of the U.S. military... (was Re: The Failure of the
USS Yorktown)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:52:59 GMT
Facts are correct, but the missions are a little
mixed up.
The Apollo series had seriously outdated computers
due to the fact that they wanted to be able to
component repair any failing item down to the last
transistor. IBM SMS technology allowed that. IBM
MST technology did not, hence the semi IBM
360/quasi 370 computers that were used for the
later Apollo missions. These were conglomerations
of IBM 's standard computers tweaked for NASA.
Space shuttles didn't get laptops until the mid
1990's as far as I know. The puters' were still
somewhat component repairable. The laptops were
for data collection and not for running th
shuttle. They were also highly customized units
able to withstand the rigors, not to mention gamma
rays (smile) of space.
You have to understand the philosophy of NASA
which is much like the that of the NYSE. Total
redundant and able to be repaired on the fly.
The NYSE was using IBM 3330 disk drives well into
the 1990's simply because they were able to remove
a pack (physically) from a string and slap it into
another string on the fly. This could easily have
been performed with mirroring or RAID, or under
VM, but they liked the security blanket of being
able to hold the data in their hands.
Sounds strange but that's what I have been told.
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 14:15:48 -0400, Gary Hallock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>2 + 2 wrote:
>
>> The first space shuttle went up with 6 redundant IBM computers that were
>> several generations outdated, due to government contracting leadtimes.
>>
>> An astronaut had a laptop with him that was immensely superior to the IBM
>> computers.
>>
>
>Are you sure about that? The first shuttle was launched in April 1981. Did
>laptops exist back then?
>
>Gary
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From: "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I've always said: Netcraft numbers of full of it
Date: 22 Jul 2000 19:59:05 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8l8nns$3o7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> "Drestin Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> >Start here: http://www.stratus.com/
> >>
<snip>
> >Why do you automatically assume that there HS to be a difference in
> >guarantees any more than the difference from any other guarentee from any
> >other vendor of any OS anywhere? Why would the W2K guarentee
automatically
> >(cause it's a MS product) be different?
>
> I don't assume any such thing. I *know* that the last time someone
> mentioned "guaranteed uptimes" for NT, the guarantee was somewhere between
> worthless and insulting.
>
> I indeed *assume* that the uptime guarantees given in the UNIX world
> are different from this, because otherwise no intelligent person would
> bother talking about them.
Oh, so only unix uptime guarentees are intelligent, NT uptime guaretees are
insulting and worthless? Wow, you really do make a statement here. Can you
back this up in any way shape or form - other than your obvious dislove of
NT and adoration of everything *nix? I mean, I can just say these things too
and say I *KNOW* (nice "*"s too) that the sky is green but does that make it
so?
>
> >> I don't know what the UNIX places promise, but it sure has to be more
> >> than a partial reduction in the cost of a scheduled service. In fact,
> >> I always wondered why a server, once set up, would require scheduled
> >> servicing?!?
>
> >You describe a scenario that COULD be applied to ANY OS/hardware
vendoring
> >offering such a garuentee - I dont' see the relavence...
>
> But at least last time a vendor *did* offer such a guarantee for *NT*,
> they failed to offer anything useful.
To you, perhaps. Maybe in your experience this might be true. In mine it is
not. Do you presume to speak for all NT uptime guarentees made by every
vendor everywhere? Can you say you know of ever guarantee and they are all
shit, every single last one?
> I followed your link, and it doesn't even offer any uptime guarantees
> for NT, let alone promises anything useful if the system should fail to
> deliver.
You didn't look well enough and others in this thread have provided even
higher uptime figures than I suggested.
>
> >> So *if* it is fixed in SP1, and *if* you have SP1 installed, then how
> >> do you expect to be able to trigger the bug?
>
> >Because I have more than 1 W2K box... and I didn't install the beta of
SP1
> >on more than the one box I had license to do so....
>
> Huh? Run that by me again --- you need a license to install a service pack
> now? Whose license? How much does it cost to get such a license?
I was only given a single beta of SP1 and unlike general release SPs,
*BETAs* you cannot just hand out to anyone. Yes, the BETA is restricted to
the one copy I was given. Please, read closer, detail is improtant. You
couldn't even find the 99.9999% uptime guarentees.
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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:01:56 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows?
Drestin Black wrote:
> yes, but think about something. The function that was choosen is singularly
> something a VB programmer is never really facing. Far as I know, I'll never
> be porting my VB app between different endian machines. The function is not
> something I recognized cause I've never done it before. But someone said:
> "here, betcha cant' do this in VB" and I did. That's all. It wasn't meant to
> win prizes.
You don't have to port a program to another machine architecture to have to
worry about little/big endian. All you have to do is send data to another
machine, whether by TCP/IP or file. That's why there are C functions
(actually macros) called ntohl() and htonl().
Gary
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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:03:09 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Just curious, how do I do this in Windows?
Drestin Black wrote:
> Actually - I never ever have need for this function in BASIC which is why i
> was unfamiliar with it so I just jotted out a brute force solution - the
> first thing to pop to mind. I didn't sit and dwell on it or spend more than
> a few seconds to pound out the code. Someone just said "couldn't be done in
> VB" - and I did. That's all.
>
> Your version from the C version is more efficient.
So I guess you have never written a program that has to send data over a
network.
Gary
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Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 21:07:36 -0400
From: Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Am I the only one that finds this just a little scary?
Drestin Black wrote:
>
> >
>
> Bernie - it's the same thing. You are splitting hairs. Do you really think
> they are stupid enough to offer 99.999% but you can't access the machine but
> it's still running and consider that "up"? Please... I did what you asked
> and you can't accept it. You should.
This sort of thing is done all the time in advertising. They make you think
you can get 99.999% uptime on the system but have never explicitly said so.
They haven't lied. Just let you believe what you want to believe. Smart
consumers check the fine print.
Gary
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