Linux-Advocacy Digest #842, Volume #28 Sat, 2 Sep 00 19:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? (Courageous)
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...) ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: How low can they go...? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whats a good starting point? (Tim Hanson)
Re: How low can they go...? (T. Max Devlin)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:05:10 -0400
C Lund wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > In a recession? hundreds of thousands. You know, policies are
> > > no good if they only work in economic booms.
> >
> > And if people's money isn't being STOLEN from them by the
> > government, then they have sufficient sums of money set aside
> > precisely for this purpose.
>
> Stolen? What do you mean?
If, under the threat of armed-kidnapping, you coerce me into
giving you money so that you can give it to someone else, that
is stolen money.
The fact that such a process was enacted by a legislative body
makes no difference....stealing is stealing.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Courageous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 22:12:53 GMT
> I can't see how this can be, if you believe they have free will.
> Perhaps the problem is in your judgement of their actions, rather than
> in their judgement of their actions or other's ethical judgement. You
> seem to be saying "I've seen someone act selfishly and believe they are
> not acting selfishly." So who are you to unilaterally judge whether it
> was selfish, or merely appeared selfish to you?
People make judgements all the time, Mr. Devlin. This is a simple
fact of life.
> >The moment someone starts using inaction as a claim of immorality,
> >they are, in my experience, very much more selfish than they think
> >they are.
>
> Ah, I think I see where you're going (or coming from, at least.)
> Perhaps you would be more clear on the issues if you recognized that 'in
> my assessment' is more appropriate than 'in my experience', unless you
> are trying to insist on your own moral authority in judging others. It
> seems plausible to suspect that you are merely being very much more
> selfish in your inaction than you think you are.
Hrm? I think that I am very selfish, as, in general, are all
human beings... with the rare exception, of course.
> Certainly you can't think that letting another human
> suffer or die merely because of your inaction is moral or ethical.
What I can say is that, if you believe that it is, you are a terribly
immoral and unethical person. Why, you ask? Because you allow countless
people to die every day through your inaction. If *you* find inaction
in the face of human misery to be contemptible, then you are contemptible
by your own standards. Or isn't it true that you've elected to purchase
luxury goods in lieu of providing support to your fellow suffering
citizens of the world?
I look at things differently; human misery is an opportunity for
*charity*. While charity is a wonderful indicator of our human
empathy, and a laudable thing, I condemn neither myself nor anyone
else for withholding charity.
C//
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:08:04 -0400
C Lund wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hmm... the working poor? I don't know which specific jobs they have. My
> > > guess it's the ones that pay minimal wage. Or less.
> > Please name ONE individual who is:
> > A) Working *AT LEAST* 40 hours/week
> > B) Is living within his means. (*)
> > and
> > C) is "trapped" in poverty
>
> Since there aren't really any working poor in Norway, there's no way I
> could know a member of that class.
Then, you admit that your tales of woe are based on some Charles Dickens
nightmare instead of reality.
>
> > (*) Having children you can't afford is NOT "living within your means"
>
> Bollocks.
What part of "abstinance" and "birth control" and "abortion" do you
not understand?
>
> --
>
> C Lund
> http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:08:45 -0400
C Lund wrote:
>
> Btw; when are you going to tell us how you got out of poverty?
>
Every job is a stepping stone to a better job.
> --
>
> C Lund
> http://www.notam.uio.no/~clund/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:09:18 -0400
C Lund wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > > > Note, here is another demonstration that Aaron is not a Republican. How
> > > > many Republicans have you seen encouraging abortion?
> > > You have a point there. But was he really encouraging it or was he just
> > > being flip?
> > What do you think.
>
> I'm leaning towards flip.
>
This is why you fail.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:12:18 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Jim Richardson in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> [...]
> >I don't know as I'd call it leftwing indoctrination, but teaching kids
> >that this is a democracy,, and not a Republic, is certainly indoctrination,
> >same with the whole collectivist interpretation of what little part of
> >american history actually gets taught.
>
> True, but perhaps the fact that it is a collectivist interpretation is
> merely what you've been indoctrinated into thinking? How can you tell?
Her Max...try this: Here is the OFFICIAL digital version of the US
Constitution at wegstie of the National Archives.
http://www.nara.gov/exhall/charters/constitution/constitution.html
Read it yourself.
Is that so hard?
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> -- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
> of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
> Research assistance gladly accepted. --
>
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:13:38 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Joe R. in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [...]
> >> 14% SS (your employer pays about half, but it comes out of the money
> >> you would be getting if the govt wasn't), a couple percent for the
> >
> >That's certainly one interpretation, but is subject to question at the
> >low end of the scale. If you're earning minimum wage, you're getting the
> >LEAST the employer can get away with. If they could get away with less,
> >they probably would.
>
> Good point.
>
And yet, around Detroit, even part-time burger flippers are getting
50% OVER minimum wage AND insurance AND 401k plans.
Why is that?
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> -- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
> of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
> Research assistance gladly accepted. --
>
> -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
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--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: [OT] Bush v. Gore on taxes (was: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split ...)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:15:08 -0400
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Aaron R. Kulkis in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
> [...]
> >Because it's THEIR money to do with as they please.
>
> Not once they're dead, its not.
So, you don't have a will...you're planning on specifying that upon
your death, EVERYTHING you own should be given to the government.
Gee, I'll bet your kids think you're just a hell of a guy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:19:50 -0400
JS/PL wrote:
>
> "fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Nigel Feltham wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone who bought a PC back in the days of microsoft's old OEM license
> where
> > > the OEM paid microsoft for every machine sold even if the hard-drive is
> > > blank in theory already has a licence to run windows and should be
> entitled
> > > to install the upgrade even if they have never previously actually had
> an
> > > install CD for the product.
> >
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > This leads to the situation (like in this very room) where
> > there are more legal Windows licenses than there are computers
> > running Windows.
> >
> >
> > If that ain't a ripoff monopoly then I really don't know
> > what is...
> Then maybe you should read about it, this is a case of false memory,
> Microsoft never exclusively sold per processor licenses to oem's. Some oems
> went for that particular deal, but none were ever forced to do it, it was
> one of three options OEM's could choose to negotiate.
>
> <quote>
> Microsoft began offering per processor licenses at some point in the late
> 1980s at the request of OEMs who wanted to simplify the administration of
> their per system licenses. (Kempin FTC Testimony (Exh. 9) at 96-97; Hosogi
> Dep. (Exh. 8) at 27-28; Lum Dep. (Exh. 6) at 82; Fade Dep. (Exh. 7) at
> 103-07.) Because OEMs generally change microprocessors much less frequently
> than they change other components of their systems, a per processor license
> decreased the number of contract amendments that had been necessary under a
> per system license due to system changes. (Kempin FTC Testimony (Exh. 9) at
> 96-97; Hosogi Dep. (Exh. 8) at 27-28; Fade Dep. (Exh. 7) at 103-06.)
I find this not only hard to believe, but extremely disengenous.
All one needs to do is define a "system" as being any
"CPU, disk drive and supporting hardware" and "a system with license
as "any system with Windows installed or shipped with the System".
> </quote>
> http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/caldera/licensing.asp
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ Voluntary Split Save It?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 18:20:59 -0400
JS/PL wrote:
>
> "josco01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Sat, 02 Sep 2000, JS/PL wrote:
> > >"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> >
> > >> All I want to know is, if its illegal to *monopolize*, and its illegal
> > >> to *attempt to monopolize*, just how is it legal to have a monopoly?
> > >
> > >Read up on the subject Max
> > >Monopolies
> > >http://www.capitalism.org/capitalism/faq/monopolies.htm
> > >Antiu-Trust
> > >http://www.capitalism.org/capitalism/faq/antitrust.htm.
> >
> > I wouldn't rely on unaccredited sites.
> >
> > Yes Monopolies are legal and trying to aquire one is legal if one doesn't
> > break the laws - including anti-trust laws.
> >
> > >you might find the part about Microsoft especially helpfull:
> > ><quote>
> > >Regarding the Microsoft case, don't consumers have a right to Windows
> > >without Explorer? Does not Microsoft's bundling of their products (i.e.
> > >Microsoft Internet Explorer and Microsoft Windows) into one package
> disrupt
> > >a person's right to only have to pay for products he wishes to buy?
> >
> > Garbage in and Garbage out. There are web sites dedicated to ET and
> aliens.
> >
> > The laws are unambigous and bolting IE into Windows was and is illegal and
> it
> > wan't very creative. That's why the case aginast MS went so fast and
> > poorly for MS. These kinds of arguments are dumb, deadend logic that has
> failed
> > to defend one monopolist.
> >
> > MS was asked to provide a choice -- Windows with and without IE. A
> consumer
> > who wants Windows with IE isn't even a honest description of the problem.
> > That's why courts are so harsh to MS.
> >
> > >No one has a right to buy whatever they wish, one only has the right to
> buy
> > >what others choose to sell to them.
> >
> > I do have a right to buy what ever I wish and I exericse that
> > right every day. I have a right to create demand and I have a right to a
> > market that is free to respond to that demand.
>
> You do not have the right to buy whatever you wish - you only have the right
> to buy what someone chooses to sell you.
Which brings us RIGHT BACK to "OBSTRUCTION OF TRADE"
GAME
SET
MATCH
YOU LOSE!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
I: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
J: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: "Jeem" Dutton is a fool of the pathological liar sort.
C: Jet plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a method of
sidetracking discussions which are headed in a direction
that she doesn't like.
D: Jet claims to have killfiled me.
E: Jet now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
F: Neither Jeem nor Jet are worthy of the time to compose a
response until their behavior improves.
G: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
H: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whats a good starting point?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 23:03:06 GMT
Nigel Feltham wrote:
>
> Tim Hanson wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Ingemar Lundin wrote:
> >>
> >> SuSE Linux 7.0 Professional... it ROCKS!!
> >>
> >> /IL
> >>
> >> > So where does a guy start?
> >> >
> >> > Kevin Wandtke
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> >In terms of simple bang for the buck, a person can't do much better than
> >SuSE. I've been a satisfied customer since 5.1.
> >
>
> It seems from another thread on this newsgroup ( see 'Why doesn't suse wait
> till autumn') that suse 7.0 is based on a lot of beta versions so it may be
> best to get version 6.4 at the moment as it is likely to be a lot more
> stable (and cheaper which is always a bonus).
Call me an addict. I've had 6.4 since it came out, and haven't missed a
new version in a couple of years. The benefit is that someone always
gets the old version, which is usually less than six months old.
That might come to an end, though. I heard that starting now they will
sell an upgrade without the book for less. That'll be the one I'll get
this time, so no more books to give to the newbies.
--
"It took me fifteen years to discover that I had no talent for writing,
but I couldn't give up because by that time I was too famous."
-- Robert Benchly
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How low can they go...?
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2000 19:08:25 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Erik Funkenbusch in comp.os.linux.advocacy;
>"Christophe Ochal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:ZMNr5.475
>> > FYI, the "fuss" was because MS didn't document their extensions, which
>the
>> > standard did not require for the extension field.
>>
>> Ah, but isn't Kerberos supposed to be an open standard? And didn't they
>> leave open the extentions to provide means of adding features? If M$ uses
>> these, and don't document their extentions, doesn't this break the goal of
>> an open standard?
>
>Then the standard should have specified that extensions must be documented,
>though I'm unsure how they would enforce that.
>
>There's nothing wrong with creating a superset of a standard, which is what
>MS did. They were fully compatible with said standard, while proding extra
>features.
When you say "there's nothing wrong with it", you are forgetting that
whether something is a violation of anti-trust law, namely the Sherman
Act, it is the *character* of the activity, not its putative business
justification, which is outlawed. There's nothing wrong with creating a
superset of a standard, so long as it is not done to restrain trade,
monopolize, or attempt to monopolize. If it is willfully executed for
anti-competitive purposes, it is a criminal activity, regardless of the
number of potential ways and means which another occurrence of that
described action by some other company in some other circumstance,
similar or not, might use it as a competitive mechanism.
There's nothing wrong with designing and marketing a superior product;
as long as it isn't a willful attempt to acquire or maintain monopoly
power. It doesn't matter how many extra features or how much said
compatibility there was. What matters is whether it encouraged
competition or discouraged competition.
--
T. Max Devlin
-- Such is my recollection of my reconstruction
of events at the time, as I recall. Consider it.
Research assistance gladly accepted. --
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