Linux-Advocacy Digest #929, Volume #28 Tue, 5 Sep 00 17:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools (Bob Germer)
Re: Computer and memory
Re: Computer and memory (2:1)
Re: businesses are psychopaths (Richard)
Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E. Ballard
says Linux growth stagnating (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Would a M$ voluntary spit save it? (Maximo Lachman)
Re: ZDNet reviews W2K server; I think you'll be surprised.... (T. Max Devlin)
Re: ZDNet reviews W2K server; I think you'll be surprised.... (T. Max Devlin)
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: Bob Germer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] Public v. Private Schools
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:04:45 GMT
On 09/05/2000 at 02:20 AM,
"Joe R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said in response to absolute nonsense
posted by T.Max Devilin:
> > >If demand for private schools exceeds available space, more schools will
> > >be created.
> >
> > If demand for private schools exceeds available space, then they should
> > be shut down and the money diverted to public schools. If better public
> > schools are needed, better public schools will be created.
Only a T. Max, an algore, or a Bubba Clinton could support such nonsense.
Following that twisted logic, Ford, GM, Daimler Chrysler, Toyota, Nissan,
etc., etc. should be shut down and the government should build the cars.
Likewise, IBM, Apple, MS, Compaq, Dell, etc. etc. should be shut down and
the government should build our computers. Individual and corporate
farmers should be put out of business and the government should raise our
food.
If TMAX is listing, he MIGHT just recognize just such an economic model.
It was done in Russia, It is done in China. It's called Communisim.
NEWS FLASH FOR TMAX: IT FAILED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I see. So you're opposed to people being able to choose how to educate
> their kids?
Of course he is. Individual liberty and responsibility are alien concepts
to idiots like TMAX.
> Not surprising given your penchant for having the government control
> every element of everyone's lives.
> No thanks.
AMEN!!!!!!!
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Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 14
MR/2 Ice 2.20 Registration Number 67
Finishing in 2nd place makes you first loser
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:06:24 GMT
PLEASE LET THIS THREAD DIE!
A workstation OS shouldn't need more than 8MB and working pictures should
require more than another 32-64M.
<remembers working as a student w/ 60 others sharing a vax 11-780 w/ 16MB
memory>
Just because graphics applications need TONS of memory to work well
doesn't give the OS an excuse to be so fucking wastefull.
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From: 2:1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computer and memory
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 19:56:41 GMT
> Britain is behind in technlogoy because THEY CHOOSE TO BE BEHIND in
> technology.
That is utter bullshit. And you have an annoying, crap sig. What is
more, you seem unable to snip.
We are not behind in technology. Granted, most stuff in the US is
cheaper, but higher tech?
-Ed
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Before you buy.
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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.gis,comp.infosystems.www.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: businesses are psychopaths
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 20:19:28 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What did your quote say, 20+% of those in prison are psychopaths?
> The vast majority of people in prison ended up there because they
> lacked a long view.
<rolleyes> Not this tripe again. Did you miss:
Poor behavioral controls
Lack of realistic long-term plans
Impulsivity
in the Psychopathy Checklist??
Saying "a psychopath who takes a long view behaves like a
normal person" actually means "a non-psychopath behaves
like a normal person".
Psychopaths compose 1% of the general population, 10-25%
of the prison population and 50% of cop killers. And here you
are busy trying to rationalize under what conditions they behave
like normal people.
> No, they are happy with their lives. You see a grave injustice affecting
> them, they see something that isn't that big of a deal.
Wrong. I see a great injustice that HAPPENS to affect them.
If they're too selfish to care how that injustice affects others
or too deeply self-deluded to recognize it as injustice, well
that's not exactly commendable behaviour.
> >> Are they still being exploited? No doubt, but if the exploitee doesn't
> >> care much and is living a decent life ...
>
> >Then it still matters because there are side-effects like unsustainable
> >exploitation of the environment.
>
> Changing the subject again.
You're the one claiming that exploitation doesn't matter. And I
see you oh so conveniently snipped my mention of people being
affected that DO care about being exploited!
> >If people did all become like Spock and remained self-interested
> >then civilization would collapse. But I don't think that would
> >happen, I think people would just admit that they aren't motivated
> >by self-interest once their fundamental needs are met.
>
> What other rational motivation is there?
Other? You assume that self-interest is rational! It is not.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Anonymous Wintrolls and Authentic Linvocates - Re: R.E.
Ballard says Linux growth stagnating
Date: 5 Sep 2000 20:24:11 GMT
On Tue, 05 Sep 2000 14:23:35 -0300, Roberto Alsina wrote:
>> I think you getting a little tangled, up untl this last message of yours the
>> question has been about Trolltech suing, not being sued as you have
>> transformed the discussion just now.
>
>I know that in the original argument the "threat" was TT suing
>harmony.
>
>However, I am also aware that for such a suit it makes no sense
>to talk about anti-trust, as Max is doing.
>After all, who would TT sue, if the alleged monopolist is TT itself?
Let's review Max's illogic in this thread.
Troll Tech, by threatening to sue Harmony ( or any other project that
clones their AI ) are involved in a sinister conspiracy to suppress
"competition on their API". This is an anti-trust violation.
What Troll Tech *should* have done is "help" Harmony, though it's
not clear what "help" means.
We have been told that Troll should
not have forced Harmony to clean-room their API -- Harmony should
have been able to view the source, much like a student looking to
another student for inspiration during an exam ( it's OK as long
as they only look for inspiration and don't copy )
There's another place where Max also discusses anti-trust. Apparently,
when Eirik refers to the "Microsoft scenario", he is suggesting that
under some circumstances, TT would sue for anti-trust violations.
It's a funny little world that he lives in.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maximo Lachman)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Would a M$ voluntary spit save it?
Date: 5 Sep 2000 20:32:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Maximo Lachman)
Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> Maximo Lachman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> jragosta wrote:
>
>>What he seems to be saying is that there are a very few rare
>>circumstances where someone could be very wealthy (i.e, high net worth)
>>and pay little or no taxes. Some of these are perfectly legitimate and
>>ethical, such as when they have a family farm with high worth, but no
>>income.
>
> Actually the Wall Street Journal reported that there are 20 million people
> who could file but who do not, as only taxpayers are required to file. As
> you are presumed to be a non-taxpayer until found to be a taxpayer, no
> non-taxpayer needs to file. That is until you or a judge with jurisdiction
> puts you into the class of taxpayers. The reason that none of them are
> prosecuted for tax evasion, is that the burden of proof is on the IRS to
> show that they were judged taxpayers PRIOR to the prosecution AND the
> filing deadline. When has ANYBODY been ruled by a judge to be a taxpayer
> prior to the filing deadline for any given tax year? Leona Helmely and
> Pete Rose were only convicted for fraud on their returns, not for not
> filing. They would have been better off not filing in the first place.
>
> Moreover, the 16th amendment and the Internal Revenue Code do not empower
> Congress to collect income taxes from "whatever source at all" but only
> from "whatever source derived." The meaning of "source" is as in Black's
> law dictionary (i.e. it must be an entity, such as a business, whose
> existence is derived from a license granted by government; so homeowners
> do not have to pay employer taxes for hiring painters). Thus, income tax
> must be collected as an excise tax, from an established source of the taxable
> item, just like with every other excise tax. No prizes for guessing that
> the Supreme Court ruled that income tax had always been laid as an excise,
> interpreted by the courts as an excise, and thereby is to be enforced as
> an excise.
>
> The bottom line is: if the IRS does not get paid by the source, it cannot
> go after the recipient. The same is true if a corporation pays dividends
> to a foreigner, but fails to withhold: the IRS can't go after the
> foreigner's US-based assets. At least in theory.
>
> In practice, the IRS has never won any collection action against any such
> recipient in any Canadian court that I know of, and certainly not from any
> of David Ingram's clients. The U.S. courts are different, as the tax laws
> are riddled with Swiss-cheese loopholes to enrich lawyers, accountants,
> corrupt judges and IRS employees, who won't let you take advantage of them
> unless they get a cut of your tax savings. Unfortunately I also know this
> from personal experience, but at least the cut was reasonably small, and
> since the cut was part of my lawyer's fee, I was able to deduct it from my
> Canadian taxes.
>
>
>Cool. Do you have references for this?
Yes:
The Wall Street Journal reports such statistics in its weekly front
page tax column. The one I'm referring to is from a Wednesday in January
1998.
Ruling in general you are required to have due process, namely an
assessment of one's taxable basis and resulting tax before being classed a
taxpayer:
Radinsky v U.S. 622 F.Supp.412 (Westlaw.com should have this).
In particular the Radinskys became defacto taxpayers by paying the tax.
They then sued for a refund based on a lack of due process, and won on
that argument. In fact it was THE IRS that argued that the Radinskys did
not have standing to file suit on the grounds that no tax had ever been
assessed against them, and that thereby they cannot be judged to be
taxpayers, as the laws only apply to taxpayers. So there you have it
from the horse's mouth: It follows that if the Radinskys can't sue due to
a lack of due process needed to be judged as taxpayers, (or of
sworn tax return that they were indeed taxpayers,) then by the same
argument they cannot be prosecuted under laws which presume that you are a
taxpayer, in the absence of said due process (or of said sworn statement).
Supreme court rulings that income tax is an excise:
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=240&invol=1#17
Brushaber v. Union Pacific 240 U.S. 1
Supreme court rulings that a federal excise tax must be collected from the
source or conveyor of the taxable item, not the recipient:
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/278/175.htm 278 U.S. 175
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/421/200.htm 412 U.S. 200
However these kind of wins are rare. My advice is to find a good lawyer or
accountant who knows how to bribe IRS agents to keep you out of trouble,
despite having the law on your side. The lower down the ladder you can
pay the "protection money" to secure your rights, the more you will save.
Once you get into the audit process or appeals, it will cost you more to
get what's legally yours. You'll wind up paying more for lawyers than by
a well-placed bribe early on (assuming you haven't walked into a set-up).
I'm wondering just how much money passed under the table to get the wins
mentioned above? The U.S. in dollar terms is the most corrupt system in
the world. India, china & Russia are only more corrupt in terms of
transaction volume, not value.
ciao baby,
mAximo
Who says that Spanish fishermen have no respect for the world's fishstocks?
Spain is the only country where you can buy tuna-friendly canned dolphin!
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: ZDNet reviews W2K server; I think you'll be surprised....
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:43:30 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Stuart Fox in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Said Stuart Fox in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>> >In article <8p0fst$2qb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> > sfcybear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> > We do it with a couple of lines in the login script
>> >> > if "%OS%=="Windows_NT" cscript ntdns.vbs
>> >> > else cscript win9xdns.vbs
>> >> >
>> >> > Readdressing of workstations is a *minor* issue,
>> >>
>> >> Yeah if you only have 2 workstations! but what if you have
>> >THOUSANDS???
>> >> it becomes a MAJOR issue! This sort of BS is why I would NOT want to
>> >> turn DNS over to a MS admin!
>> >>
>> >
>> >Well a good Unix admin knows about things called
>> ><drevil>"scripts"</drevil>. [...]
>>
>> A competent admin of anything knows that hand-waving something by saying
>> "oh, just use a script" is the height of idiocy.
>>
>To use a script to update the DNS entries is trivial. It's not a
>hand-waving explaination at all, it's a perfectly valid and simple solution
>to the problem.
To use *a* script to update *the* (pre-defined) DNS entry is trivial.
To say that you can "'just' use scripts" to make up for the deficiencies
of a product, particularly a newly designed product, is stupidity
manifest. Its hand-waving the complexity of implementing modern
technology in *real life*, by feigning ignorance of what makes
technology difficult to implement in *real life*.
--
T. Max Devlin
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: ZDNet reviews W2K server; I think you'll be surprised....
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:44:11 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Said Stuart Fox in alt.destroy.microsoft;
>
>"sfcybear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:8p1d4v$i2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <8p0mdh$9hf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>
>> Yes I DO know how to do scripts and if you think it would work in a
>> major corpration that has almost NO documentation, without major
>> headachs, then go right a head and do it. And I the Unix man will sit
>> and laugh as another ms admin bites the dust!
>>
>a) Most major corporations have documentation
Ha!
>b) You don't need documentation to write a script to change DNS entries
>(unless you've forgotten where your DNS servers are) on Windows machines.
>The change is trivial, so having documentation or not is irrelevant
Yea, we know. Using Windows is easy, always has been!
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