Linux-Advocacy Digest #766, Volume #31 Sat, 27 Jan 01 10:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: you guys suck and so does your os! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ("Chad Myers")
Re: How long does your box run for? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A Microsoft exodus! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: GODDAMNED STINKING PIECE OF SHIT THOLEN ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Whistler, the greatest jump forward in the evolution of computing... ("Edward
Rosten")
Re: Whistler predictions... (Mart van deWege)
Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Chad Myers")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Mart van deWege)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: you guys suck and so does your os!
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:10:19 -0500
Christian Beaumont wrote:
>
> Reading this newsgroup it is quite clear that in general the *advocates* of
> Linux attitde to criticism is childish and your OS still has faults compared
> to others even if in some areas it is superior.
Legitimate criticisms are given the serious consideration which they are due
(and I have made some myself). However, the vast majority (99.9995%) of
the criticisms of Linux in this newsgroups come from Windows-cultists,
most of whom
a) have no little or no formal education in computational techniques,
other than "Microsoft Office" classes.
b) have little or no programming experience
c) have NO understanding of basic issues like stability, and
memory protection, nor how one effects the other
d) have little or NO experience with anything other than Microsoft platforms.
Basically, their criticism are akin to:
"What the fuck is wrong with you?!?!? eating that prime rib steak.
Eeegads, you need a knife and a fork to eat it. Only an idiot would
would pass up this sumptious array of barnyard shit for steak.
Look what you have to choose from: Sheep shit, Cow shit, pig shit,
chicken shit. What more could you want. EVERYBODY I KNOW EATS THIS
SHIT! There must be something wrong with you, and anybody else who
doesn't like eating shit. Anybody who doesn't eat shit should be
forced at gunpoint to eat shit. Look, barnyard shit comes in so
many flavors. Look here, we've got Pigshit95 and Sheepshit98
and HorseshitNT and Cowshit2k and GoatshitME, and I hear that next
week, they're gonna deliver a load of Quackershit...with SKINS.
Oh God, can you imagine that...what more could you want than a
choice of different colored skins for your Quackershit. What
do you mean it's infested with infectious organism and is actually
wasteproducts....it's GENUINE MICRO-FARM ***SHIT***! Who needs
Nutrition!?!?!? BESIDES, FARMER BILL says that Cowshit2k has
vitamin supplements, and Quackershit will have even more.
Shit either dries out and crumbles, or gets wet and turns into
a horrible blob of smelly goo? Why, I never noticed any such
thing....why yes, my nose WAS amputated, why do you ask...
no, really...look, if you just keep a tube of superglue with
you at all times, if a little piece of your shit dried up and
starts to fall off before you're ready to eat it, all you have
to do is just superglue it back into place? What do you mean
superglue wasn't meant to be eaten!?!?!? EVERYBODY EATS SHIT
WITH SUPERGLUE IN IT!?!??! What the fuck is wrong with you that
you don't want to eat Farmer Bill's Genuine Microfarm SHIT?!?!
Geeze, you steak eaters sure are a bunch of stupid assholes.
The nerve...even suggesting that Bill's shit isn't really food.
Hrmfff!"
>
> The fact is no piece of software is software is perfect and the truth is
> both Linux and Microsoft *want* to make a good os that is useful to
> everyone. The other truth is that for some reason people keep buying
> Microsoft products and it makes you wake up in cold sweats every night
> doesn't it?
The truth is, Microsoft has yet to release ANY Operating system
that compares favorably with 1960's technology.
Microsoft sells pure, unadulterated CRAP....and I, for one, am
goddamned sick and tired of a bunch of shit-lapping retards
telling me that I don't know how to make a proper decision, when,
quite obviously, the accusation is MOST applicable to themselves.
>
> So can you take some criticism, can you really take it when I say Linux
> sucks even though I don't qualify my statement?
You have now demonstrated yourself to be a fucking RETARD.
I will treat you like every other uneducated buffoon who comes
in here
>
> I don't think you can. I believe you as "advocates" for linux will come
> back and flame me and probably use crude, bad language. Realistically I
No...I'll flame you for being the uneducated fool that your are.
> have little faith that you can ever bite your tongues for long.
> Unfortunately this is one of the places where you, the so-called figureheads
> of the linux community will seemingly always fall foul of reaching out to
> all of society. This is because apparently there are still many areas of
> contact with the general public within your movement that fronted by fascist
> bigots incapable of objective self criticism and rational thought.
> Seemingly this is in contrast to the major software developers of your
> movement who I truly believe have a solid grasp of the concrete tasks
> necessary to make Linux a true competitor to W2K and beyond.
Translation: "What the fuck is wrong with you....can't you see that
Sheepshit2K is obviously THE most powerful food on the planet?"
Yeah....right....Uh....Bellevue...yeah...me again...the usual...
right...Net...straightjacket....his name is Chris Beaumont...yes,
that's right...just like the Civil War surgeon...yeah...that's right...
another one raving about the wonders of Farmer Bill's Microfarm Shit.
...yeah...full cult-deprogramming regimin should be just fine.
>
> What say you - eh, you whining idiots, can you suck it up and take it in the
> ass? How about I make a speling mistake?
How about you get a fucking clue, shit-lapping idiot.
>
> By the way, the other question for you, reading my mail - do you think I am
> pro Linux or against?
>
> -chris
Feel like a betting man?
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
2005: Linux will be on 95% of corporate desktops, and 30% of homes
throughout the United States of America.
How much are you willing to bet AGAINST this prediction?
>
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Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 13:59:42 GMT
"spewage forth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:94to6o$7ev$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:94s88j$11i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> Chad Myers wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > P.S.- sponsoring an independant benchmark does not necessarily
> >> >> > taint the findings.
> >> >>
> >> >> Hint: "sponsored" and "independent" clash.
> >>
> >> > Then you have no idea how the scientific world works. All studies
> >> > are sponsored by someone, but it doesn't affect the outcome of
> >> > the study.
> >>
> >> Then you have never been involved in the 'scientific world'.
> >>
> >> I have. I was involved in radon research in the late 80s-early90s
> >> in northeastern pennsylvania.
> >>
> >> I can tell you that under no uncertian terms, sponsorship absolutely
> >> affects the outcome of these studies.
>
> > Ah yes, anecdotal qualified evidence. Suddenly, this makes everything
> > ok.
>
> Sorry chad, I didnt mean to interrupt your steady stream of bullshit
> with actual experience.
>
> > Whatever.
>
> Everyone who disagrees with chad is wrong. I see.
Everyone who disagrees with Chad with no basis for disagreeing, no facts,
no logical arguments, just "I was a scientists, uh huh, yes I was" claims.
Give me a break. If you think anyone believes you...
> And every study which shows that linux is in any way superior to windows
> is biased.
No, just ones on LinuxToday.com and C't. There are several ZDnet ones that
show Linux doing things better. I've never questioned the validity of those.
It's just ironic how there are several companies out there doing benchmarks
of Linux vs NT but never publish the results, or the results aren't very
conclusive. We don't have ONE major benchmark showing Linux doing anything
really all that well except for SpecWeb. Ever wonder why there aren't many,
if any benchmarks showing Linux winning anything?
-Chad
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How long does your box run for?
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:14:14 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> I'm curious, so I'd thought I'd fire off a question:
>
> How many of you leave your Linux boxen on 24/7 and how many of you switch
> them off every night?
>
Switch off a Linux box?
Only for hardware installation/replacement.
> Cheers
>
> -Ed
>
> PS I switch mine off every night (mostly).
>
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: A Microsoft exodus!
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:20:56 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > My first unfortunate experience of reading Tholen's pollution dates
> > back to 1989.
>
> Liar. My first reading of USENET postdates 1989.
1991 at the latest...I distinctly remember coming across
your endless stream of asinine bullshit BEFORE the Gulf War.
Muana Loa is calling you, Tholen.
The lava is so waaaaarm and cozy.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: GODDAMNED STINKING PIECE OF SHIT THOLEN
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:28:18 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > 12 years of YOUR GODDAMNED POLLUTION ON USENET.
>
> Liar.
Are you contesting 12 years, or the assessment that you
contribute nothing to USENET other than an ENDLESS STREAM OF
the most GODAWFUL POLLUTION IN EVERY NEWSGROUP YOU INFEST.
>
> > JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, YOU MISERABLE
> > SHIT SACK.
>
> Practice what preach, Kulkis.
THIS IS ABOUT *YOU*, THOLEN
>
> > YOU ARE A GODDAMNED WASTE OF SKIN.
>
> How ironic.
YOU'RE AND OXYGEN THIEF, TOO.
>
> > Tholen, ***YOU***, personally, are 100% crap.
>
> How ironic.
>
> > Tholen admits that he's so goddamned stupid that he can't figure
> > it out himself.
>
> Liar.
THEN PROVIDE CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT YOU CAN, IN FACT,
FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUMP INTO A VOLCANO YOURSELF WITHOUT
HAVING TO RESORT TO THE LOW-IQ "MONKEE SEE--MONKEY DO"
Then provide us with conclusive proof that you can, in fact,
figure out how to jump into Muana Loa, or any other active
volcano of your choosing, WITHOUT needing to resot to the
low-IQ "MONKEE SEE--MONKEE DO" method of instruction.
Tholen, I'll bet you can't even picture in your mind what it would
be like to travel up to the peak, walk up to the precipice, and take
the plunge.
No...because to even imagine such a thing would require a modicum
of intelligence...something which you are severely lacking.
In the mean time, do the world a fucking favor, Tholen
and SHUT THE FUCK UP!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler, the greatest jump forward in the evolution of computing...
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:30:22 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Aaron, read the article!
-Ed
> bAckline wrote:
>>
>> Microsoft Windows 2001, code-name whistler, said to be the
> ^^^^^^^^^^
> By whom? Oh yeah, Microsoft marketing, and certain paid flacks and M$
> cult members.
>
>> greatest jump forward in the evolution of computing and
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> information technology,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> For Microsoft....However, the rest of the industry accomplished these
> same technological feats over a decade ago.
>
>
>> since the advent of the
>> drop-shadowed mouse cursor.
>
> Oooooooooooh, now THERE's a feat worthy of a whole system upgrade.
>
>> Windows 2001 will be easier
>> to use, faster, more reliable, more advanced and better looking than
>> any other computing platform currently available to man.
>
> ....from Microsoft.
>
> Compared to Linux, it's still a complicated mess.
>
>
>>
>> http://www.geek-ware.co.uk/article.pl?sid=00/11/10/2134203
>>
>> PROUD to be GEEK http://www.geek-ware.co.uk
>
>
>
--
Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
- The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
|eng.ox.ac.uk
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:23:00 +0000
From: Mart van deWege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler predictions...
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> "Mart van deWege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
>> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
>>
>
>> <snip some stuff>
>>
>>>> In Microsoft's new EULA they will simply state that
>
>>>
>>>> *** YOU *** agree to this on a permanent basis.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No license agreement can take away your rights.
>
>>
>> Erik,
>
>>
>
>> READ the bloody EULA for a change! It specifically states that
>
>> ONLY a single backup is permitted. So if I like to be safe and
>
>> want to have multiple redundant backups, I am in violation,
>
>> although copyright law and precedent specifically grant me the
>
>> right to make multiple backups.
>
>
>
> Then the EULA doesn't take away your right to do so, even though it may
>
> claim to, it doesn't.
>
>
>
>
>> I am not even talking about the fact that my Win98 OEM EULA was
>
>> tied to my HARDWARE. Technically I am now in violation of it,
>
>> because I have upgraded my HD, and Win98 is no longer installed
>
>> on the HARDWARE it was licensed on.
>
>
>
> Generally MS means it's tied to the motherboard it's installed on, not the
>
> hard drive.
>
>
>
>
>> Now Microsoft should know they can't make these conditions stick
>
>> in a court of law, so why do they keep putting them in?
>
>
>
> They can certainly make the OEM restrictions stick. They own the software,
>
> and can license it however they like. There is no law stating that you are
>
> allowed to transfer a license to a new computer, unlike the copyright law
>
> which allows you to make archival copies as long as they are not in use
>
> simultaneously.
Hmmmmm,
'...the EULA doesn't take away your right...' followed by 'They
can certainly make the OEM restrictions stick'. Does anyone see
the contradiction in Erik's argument?
I rest my case.
Mart
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: THOLEN IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 09:36:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > THOLEN!
>
> KULKIS!
>
> > 1) Get off your retarded ass...
>
> You're erroneously presupposing that I have a "retarded ass" to get
> off of, Kulkis.
You're sitting on it, retard.
Thank you for demonstrating that, in fact, you ARE A retarded piece of shit.
>
> > 2) Take your maggot-infested brain to the rim of Muana Loa
>
> You're erroneously presupposing that I have a "maggot-infested brain",
> Kulkis.
Hey, Tholen...here's a fucking clue...when someone offers you an
excuse for your stupidity...TAKE IT.
Since you deny having a maggot-infested brain, then I can only conclude
that you're stupidity is an inborn trait, rather than the result of
an unfortunate insect infestation.
>
> > 3) JUMP IN THE GODDAMNED VOLCANO, ASSHOLE.
>
> Practice what you preach, Kulkis.
You're stupid shitsack
I'm not
You are an utterly worthless piece of shit
I'm not
You can't hack it in the private sector, so you hide in academia.
I don't.
Your writings are not only tiresome, but utterly annoying to all who have the
misfortune to come across them
Mine aren't.
Hope that helps.
>
> > 4) RIGHT NOW! OXYGEN THIEF!
>
> After you.
What's wrong...too stupid to figure it how to accomplish the simple
task without using the "Monkey See--Monkey Do" method.???
No wonder you're scared shitless of leaving academia.
Goddamned miseserable shit for brains.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 14:02:04 GMT
"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001 01:25:40 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> |
> |"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> |> On Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:09:17 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> |wrote:
> |> |
> |> |"Paul Colquhoun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> |> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> |> |> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 13:34:36 GMT, Chad Myers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> |> |wrote:
> |> |> |
> |> |> |"Johan Kullstam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> |> |> |news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> |> |>
> |> |> <snipped>
> |> |>
> |> |> |> unix style filesystems with the inodes &c were also designed in the
> |> |> |> 70s. however, it's not the age of the filesystem design. it's the
> |> |> |> also competence of the design and the goal of the design. FAT was
> |> |> |> made for floppies and tiny systems. unix filesystems were made for
> |> |> |> hard drives and larger systems. it's still MS's fault for keeping
> |> |> |> such a bad design as FAT and trying to keep it going where it doesn't
> |> |> |> belong, but age is not the issue.
> |> |> |
> |> |> |It's interesting then, now that FAT has moved on, whereas ext2fs
> |> |> |has not. (NOTE: I realize FAT sucks, I'm not trying to claim it's
> |> |> |better than ext2fs, just more updated).
> |> |>
> |> |>
> |> |> Read what Johan said.
> |> |>
> |> |> ext2 got it right the first time, FAT had to be updated 2 or 3
> |> |> times in the intervening period.
> |> |
> |> |Like I said, FAT sucks. But, ext2 DIDN'T get it right the first
> |> |time, they've had to update it, and now they're moving on
> |> |to ext3 because of the failings of ext2.
> |>
> |>
> |> When was ext2 updated? There were bugfixes, but no chnages in
> |> format or functionality that I am aware of.
> |
> |There was a supposed patch that allows ext2 to use >2GB files
> |on 32-bit, even though it doesn't seem to be all-inclusive
> |and there are still "issues".
> |
> |> Are you sure you are not confusing the fact that ext2 is itself
> |> an update/replacement for ext?
> |
> |Who cares? It still sucks and a replacement that brings it up
> |to 1994 level still hasn't arrived yet. Let alone bring it up
> |to 2001 level.
>
>
> Are you *sure* you don't have a learning disability?
>
> For about the 4th time (from me, more from others) the 2Gb limit
> is *not* a problem with ext2.
Every time I hear that, about four posts later, I hear someone
qualifying it. Something like "well, applications have to be rewritten
to take advantage of the new fix", or "it's available in an unsupported patch",
or something like this.
> Let me put it this way. The on disk data structures for ext2 have *always*
> supported files greater than 2Gb. The limitation on 32bit Linux systems
> was one level higher in the driver heirarchy.
So you're admitting it was a design flaw? I'm glad, because that's what it
is. Several other FS vendors have successfully made file systems that support
>2GB on several different platforms.
> When we install the 2.4.x kernal and associated libraries to enable >2Gb file
> support, we do *not* have to reformat any disk partitions to make the change
> effective.
What about the applications? Don't most of them have to be rewritten to support
the new method?
-Chad
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:46:34 +0000
From: Mart van deWege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
J Sloan wrote:
<snip some stuff>
>> Don't forget the kernel was based on the Minix kernel written by
>
>> Tanenbaum. I believe he was American.
>
>
>
> huh?
>
>
>
> First off, Tannenbaum is Dutch,......
<snip some more>
Nope, Sorry,
Tanenbaum is definitely not dutch. A colleague of mine followed
some of his classes when he was teaching at the University of
Amsterdam, and while Tanenbaum does speak dutch, according to the
colleague (who definitely *is* dutch) he did so with an atrocious
american accent.
Of course it might be that the Tanenbaum family emigrated when he
was still young, but I think it is more the case of him being an
american of dutch descent, there are quite a lot of those.
Mart
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