Linux-Advocacy Digest #886, Volume #31 Thu, 1 Feb 01 03:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: LinuxWorld Trip Report ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here! (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Storm Linux & Applixware ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LinuxWorld Trip Report
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:48:22 -0500
Sponge wrote:
>
> Well I wasted today watching the Geek in his native environment.
^^^^^^^^
you misspelled "The people [sponge] relies on to make [his] computer work"
> Sponge
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux Myths -- What I'd call Part II is here!
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 07:55:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mike Martinet wrote:
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>>
>> Initially, home users will just start using OpenOffice...things will
>> deteriorate from there as more and more managers insist on Linux at
>> home so that their home machine has the same software as what they
>> run at work...which, ironically, is the same way that M$ took over
>> the home market.
>>
>> *THAT* is why M$ is shitting bricks over Linux's potential as a desktop
>> platform.
>>
>
>Actually, I don't think Linux is better on the desktop. You know, if MS
>had just continued to sell its 'toy' operating system to the home
>market, I wouldn't have minded. Linux is a pain in the ass. But the
>rewards from mastering a true Unix on i86 are great. It was MS forcing
>their way into the server market on the back of their sloppy personal OS
>that really gummed my grits. All the sneaky, cheesy, pathetic things
>they did in order to leverage their PC dominance into the enterprise are
>frighteningly odious. As servers, the MS family of OSs stink! They're
>great for pop and sis to send email and pirate CDs, gramma to d/l baby
>pics, but to run a business?! Vomitus!
>
>Oh well.
>
>MjM
HE GOT IT RIGHT! HE GOT IT RIGHT!!!!
MY GOD!!! HELP!!! SOMEONE WITH INTELLIGENCE IS ON COLA!!!
ALERT!!! ALERT!!!! ALERT!!!!
Yeah! Microsoft got started making kiddie OS's for home use.
Microsoft did not get started making an Office OS, like some
clowns would have you believe.
The phrase which *USED* to pay in the 80's was, if it has
a GD joystick port - it does't belong in our datacenter.
Charlie
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Microsoft is FUN and Linux is BORING
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:56:39 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2001 03:53:26 +0200, "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >Really? On Win2K, stick a Audio CD to the CD drive, if you aren't admin, WMP
> >will crash.
>
> It works fine here for a standard user (not Admin group) with Win2k
> and SP1. ^^^^^
that's Lose2K, you ninny
>
> >Solution, run WMP as admin, let it "know" the CD, then close, and start
> >playing as normal user, now it will work.
>
> It works fine for me?
>
> >I love 2K & I love windows, but please don't make such outragous statements
> >on such trivial matters.
>
> Trivial to a programmer maybe.
> Non trivial to a musician,
Boooooo fucking hooooo.
Works OK with Linux...but not Lose2K
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 08:01:44 GMT
In article <95are9$dpn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I was part of the Chevette/Caddy tranny class action suit.
>
>> You need to do more research.
>
>Its not at all ironic that a blind-fan of one of the worst operating
>systems ever written would buy one of the worst cars ever built.
>
>
>
>
>-----.*
>
>
>*who prefers linux and Ducatis
>
>
Everybody knows that chickentuna here is the leader
of the master race at Redmond.
Nobody questions his authority to post 20 hours a day.
Charlie
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lookout! The winvocates have a new FUD strategy!
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:58:19 -0500
J Sloan wrote:
>
> Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> > It's all very well saying PFE blows it with 100MBytes but AbiWord barfs at
> > half-a-meg. Oh dearie dearie me!
>
> You certainly enjoy playing the clown....
>
<pete goodwin>
I su'ed to root and did rm -rf /
to remove everything; now, it won't boot.
Linux sucks.
</pete goodwin>
> jjs
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 02:59:45 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:49:33 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:53:49 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> >
> > >> >> Is it true that windows 2000 finally got filesystem quotas
> > >> >> somewhat similar to what Linux has had for years?
> > >> >
> > >> >Yes.
> > >> >Is it true that Linux finally got the SMP support that NT had for years?
> > >>
> > >> Linux had that.
> > >>
> > >> What it lacked was the 'trick' of binding NICs to single
> > >> CPU's in sort of a primitive version of system partitioning.
> > >
> > >It lacked a good design of not locking resources to a single
> > >CPU. This was a problem throughout the kernel, IIRC, the NIC
> > >thing in Mindcraft was only evidence of this.
> >
> > Not at all. That magazine that you like to ignore (C't)
> > demonstrated this to not be the case. As soon as NT
> > wasn't on a machine with matched CPUs and NICs, it lost
> > it's edge.
>
> Even if this c't makebelieve was fact, it would still show
> that Linux had a brain-dead SMP design. It couldn't even
> compete on TPC or any other SMP benchmark or real world
> scenario.
>
> > >The SMP design still (in 2.4) lacks behind most other
> > >SMP implementations out there. I'd like to see another Mindcraft-
> > >like benchmark where they have a really good SMP-friendly software
> > >and they see who scales better.
> >
> > You mean like the 8-CPU webbench99 scores where NT either
> > are blown out by Linux or is just shy of maintaining parity?
>
> You mean the one where they beat NT by a measley 3% (blow out? yeah
> right) by taking advantage of some kernel trickery?
It's called Performance Tuning, chad.
Something you microsoft droids don't know anything about because...
BILL WON'T LET YOU!
Bwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahah!
>
> -Chad
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Storm Linux & Applixware
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 03:02:18 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 20:05:29 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >When I was at GM-Powertrain (Warren Technical Center), we had admin
> >> >scripts that worked on HP, Solaris, and SGI machines. Once
> >> >usability was gained on one platform, porting to the other two
> >> >was trivial.
> >> >Not so for AIX.
> >>
> >> I'll bet you're the idiot that came up with the idea to put Chevette
> >> Transmissions in Cadillacs and other full sized cars back in the
> >> 1980's.
> >>
> >> GM got their ass's sued because of that one.
> >
> >Um...no, squished-head... Computer support people do NOT make
> >automotive design decisions.
> >
> >And, by the way, no Chevette Transmissions were put into full-sized
> >cars...idiot. There are these things called "bolts"...which pass through
> >"bolt holes" to connect one major component to another. This alone
> >prevents a "chevette transmission" from being installed into a
> >full-sized Cadillac without some serious re-tooling.
> >
>
> If need be, have him pull down his pants and
> stare into a Mirror for about an hour.
>
> >Second...a "chevette transmission" installed in a full-sized car
> >(Cadillac or otherwise) would burn out VERY shortly.
> >
>
> But Chevy engines in Oldsmobiles were OKAY for the day.
> I do remember that fiasco.
>
> Speaking of which, BYE BYE OLDSMOBILE! FARE WELL!
>
> >The case was over BUICK engines installed in some Cadillacs.
> >
> >Both engines were produced at the Livonia Engine plant, and are,
> >essentially interchangeable. (Some might even argue that, because
> >maintenance costs on Buick engines were lower at that time, that
> >anybody getting a non-Cadillac engine actually benefitted).
> >
>
> That's typical Cadillac ownership.
>
> Sue them because they put a more advanced engine in their car.
The Buick engine wasn't more advanced...just cheaper to maintain
(primarily to the economies of scale of producing things like
alternators, water pumps, etc.... higher production runs on the
Buick assemblies than with the Cadillac assemblies).
>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> AIXes problem is with licensing, IMHO.
> >> >>
> >> >> > Of course, Born-with-a-golden-spoon-in-his-mouth Gates neglected to
> >> >> > notice that IBM's customer-lock-in strategy also had IBM in Federal
> >> >> > court so frequently that they were almost a permanent fixture on
> >> >> > the dockets.
> >> >>
> >> >> Heh. I'm glad they found a way to make money without doing that.
> >> >
> >> >Their current CEO basically said,
> >> >"Look, shit-heads...even non-technical management can figure out the
> >> >customer-lock-in trap. You had BETTER start providing cross-platform
> >> >compatability, because nobody is buying your incompatible-with-the-world
> >> >crap (like, for instance...IBM's EBCDIC-based everything vs ASCII
> >> >everywhere else).
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> -----.
> >>
> >> Flatfish
> >> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> >> Remove the ++++ to reply.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Aaron R. Kulkis
> >Unix Systems Engineer
> >DNRC Minister of all I survey
> >ICQ # 3056642
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 03:03:58 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > > "J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > Actually, most Linux users are more technical than
> > > > the average windows user, and furthermore, most
> > > > Linux users were windows users at one time. So the
> > > > idea that a Linux user can't tell the difference between
> > > > 95 and nt is just plain silly.
> > >
> > > You'd be surprised. Many of your ilk post to this newsgroup and begin
> > > bashing WinNT and 2K for faults of 9x.
> >
> > You know nothing of my ilk.
> >
> > > We have to continually explain
> > > to them that, yes, NT/2K do have a fully 32-bit pre-emptive multitasking
> > > kernel and yes, they do have a fully virtualized memory space, and yes,
> > > they do have a full security implementation including process isolation,
> > > required user-logon and pervasive security checking at all levels just
> > > like in Unix, only better.
> >
> > Not, not better than Unix - still trying to catch up.
>
> Most unix still uses permission bits. DAC > Permission bits.
>
What the fuck is "DAC" ???
NT file system has built-in Digital - Analog Conversion?
Or is this yet another example of non-standard M$ terminology...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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