Linux-Advocacy Digest #724, Volume #32 Fri, 9 Mar 01 14:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Microsoft's .NET Vision ("Bryant Charleston, MCSE")
Re: The Double Fucking ala MS... (Peter Hayes)
Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time (Jay Maynard)
Re: Computing Power to Peak SOON! (WAS: Moore's Law, continued...) (Peter Hayes)
Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time (Austin Ziegler)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS Security (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:53:42 GMT
Said LShaping in alt.destroy.microsoft on Thu, 08 Mar 2001 02:41:16 GMT;
>"Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
>
>> More seriously: powerful instruments are very good to save time and to
>> provide a cleaner and re-usable code, but you can't use successfully a
>> high level instrument if you don't have a good knowledge of the low
>> level ones. OOP is very good, but when you need to create a new object,
>> or to derive another from an existing one, you aren't programming with
>> objects, you're programming objects instead, and you need a good
>> knowledge of the language objects are written into. And you can't have a
>> good knowledge of a language if you don't know the sort of machine code
>> which will be produced. Usually program bottlenecks are very few and
>> very limited. For 95% of the code you don't care. But the residual 5% is
>> the one which affects overall performance. You can't ignore the
>> resulting machine code.
>
>That is a wild generalization which suggests that a high level programmer
>must not only know the machine language but also be able to redefine
>functions using machine language. Strange, that coming from someone who
>probably is multilingual. Obviously, Giuliano is assuming that there will
>never be progress in programming languages, that all "good" programmers will
>always be stuck messing with machine language. Or he is assuming that
>machine language will always stay in step with high level languages. The
>more likely scenario, if this is not already the case, it that high level
>programmers must leave the details to low level programmers. Human
>languages certainly do not require the user to know every detail, heaven
>help us if they did.
I think what Giuliano said is that all "good" programmers *understand*
machine language; he didn't say anything about messing with it. And he
is right, of course; regardless of how "high level" future generations
of programming languages become, *good* programmers will be those who
*understand* programming at any level, not just the high ones. Sure,
you'll be able to get lots of great stuff done without that, but you
seem to be saying that not being able to do something is better than
simply not doing it.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: "Bryant Charleston, MCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft's .NET Vision
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:58:09 GMT
I was reading over that link on Product Activation, and I can see how this
will involve extra steps (making phone calls to MS, and whatnot) that a lot
of "knowledgeable" folks would have to deal with upon re-configuring their
machines. Personally, I can say that having to call MS everytime I re-do my
machine would get to be a serious pain....
I hadn't been paying much attention to their ".NET"/Activation plans, but
thanks to the enlightenment of this link and thread, I'll start keeping an
eye on it now. I can see that it's implementation will probably irritate
more than a few people!
"Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2001/Feb01/ProdActFAQ.asp
>
> Specifically:
>
> Q: Does Microsoft Product Activation have something to do with the
> Microsoft .NET strategy and ASP business?
>
> A: Anti-piracy technologies, such as Microsoft Product Activation, balance
> both the needs of consumers in acquiring the content they want, and the
> rights of content owners to protect the distribution of their works. In a
> .NET environment, where digital content and services are accessed on a
> variety of devices that communicate with each other, the protection of
> digital content must accompany the facilitation of Internet services. Such
> a seamless interaction is at the heart of the Microsoft .NET intellectual
> property protection vision.
>
> ---End Quote---
>
> Reading that above blew me away. I believe this is a cynical though still
> accurate "translation":
>
> Microsoft's .NET technologies will allow producers of content to specify
> exactly how that content may be used--including whether it may be viewed
> one or x times, copied, printed, stored, etc. The consumer will have a lot
> of choice in how they pay for that content. This is our idea of balance in
> a world where fair use will become pratically irrelevant.
>
> It is unacceptable that people can use the Internet without comprehensive
> control over all content. This is why the protection of content must be a
> component of Internet Service Provision. Microsoft has a vision where no
> citizen will be able to access vast portions of the Internet without these
> intellectual property controls applying. This vision is Microsoft .NET
> (not to be confused with MSN, which was going to be bigger than the
> Internet).
>
> Regards,
> Adam
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Double Fucking ala MS...
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:59:48 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 7 Mar 2001 08:48:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) wrote:
>
> Michael Vester ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : snoopygates wrote:
>
> : > w2k just came out and they haven't sat down to fix the bugs. Now they are
> : > forcing the new windows on us. When will it ever stop?
>
> : Not as long as the can make piles of money.
>
> Actually a stop sign is in sight. The minute that Intel can no longer deliver
> on faster chips to run the more bloated software, the upgrade-go-round will
> collapse, and like yeast in a jug of fermenting grape juice swimming in their
> own excrement, Microsoft will have to die off.
M$ will rewrite their bloatware more efficiently. More efficient routines
and tighter code in general will produce a faster more reliable product
which they'll market as something new. Benchmarks will encourage the
unknowing to re-invest in what they already have, or more accurately what
they should have been sold in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if
this was already part of M$'s game plan. Maybe they write tight code and
bloat it up so they've ensured a fall back position for when things go
wrong.
Of course, in wider terms It only puts off the evil day when our current
model of computing technology hits the buffers, but it'll be about 5-10
years away yet.
> While Moore's Law is in effect, Microsoft could sell ever-growing bloat because
> the computer power is growing. But Moore's Law is about to smash into a wall
> thanks to the heat dissipation limit and computing power will peak.
Heat dissipation isn't a problem. Power transistors dissipating hundreds of
watts have been around for years, decades even. All you need is an adequate
heatsink. Today's cpu coolers are puny affairs compared to coolers for
power amps and high power transmitters. Probably cpus will come bonded to
large slabs of copper, which in turn are bolted to the computer case or
some other heat sinking mechanism. Mount the cpu on the underside of the
motherboard and you can easily bolt its heatsink to the bottom of the
computer case. Nice big heat dissipation area.
Identify the hotspots within the cpu and redesign the layout or add heat
dissipation components to specific locations on the cpu chip. Hotspots are
far more dangerous than the overall amount of heat generated by the cpu.
For the ultimate, attach a refrigerator to the chip. One computer
manufacturer did just that some years ago so they could overclock chips by
50-100% IIRC. Remember the Crays that ran immersed in freon?
The limit to Moore's Law will be reached when the internal transistors,
conductors, etc are so small that inductive, capacitative and crosstalk
effects become significant. Also, there's a danger that when tracks are
atoms wide they'll start to diffuse into the substrate, or they'll be
damaged by the odd passing cosmic ray. Reliability falls.
But by then we'll have either organic computers that will start us on
another Moore's Law cycle, or else we'll have multiple silicon cpus in one
package, 2, 4, 8, 16 or more cpus integrated into one unit that appears as
one cpu to the outside world. Wider data and address buses will also
postpone the inevitable.
> Without
> the growth, Microsoft can't live.
>
> : > and ram, and doesn't ever lock up, or show the blue screen. Why is this
> : > such a problem for Microsoft to overcome?? Is it because they want to suck
> : > out as much money possible from your purchases of their products? Is that
> : > all that is important to them? It would appear so.
>
> : Bingo.
>
> See above about computers being the soon to stop growing jug of grape juice
> with Microsoft being the yeast culture. Years ago, I posted a parody of an
> eco-wacko with Microsoft being the butt of the joke. It looks like my joke was
> a forecast.
Repost?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Maynard)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time
Date: 9 Mar 2001 17:58:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10 Mar 2001 01:25:03 +0900, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>religiously? i'm not surprised. anyway, could you explain to me why
>i see this recurring phrase "congreff shall make no law..." and hey,
>what about that bill of rights? they're phrased _negatively_, as
>restrictions on uhh, Freedom. it's looking to me that in order to
>establish good old-fashioned american-as-apple-pie freedom we have to
>have limits (gasp) unfreedom (swoons), at the very least, a limit on
>destroying the architecture of freedom. otherwise, as you say, it's a
>hollow shell.
Go back and read the Bill of Rights again, this time for comprehension. It
is entirely a set of limits placed on governments (originally, just the US
Congress, but later extended by the Fourteenth Amendment and related court
cases) to prohibit them from infringing on the rights and freedoms assumed
to be inherent in the status of being a free citizen.
>i don't think you really want the freedom you think you want. cuz,
>like, man, you'd be a slave. i know you think you'd be sitting
>pretty, but you'd just be another house nigger.
Nice try. We have those freedoms now, and (as long as we do not allow
governments to steal them from us) will for a long time to come.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Computing Power to Peak SOON! (WAS: Moore's Law, continued...)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 17:59:49 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:05:35 +0000, "Donal K. Fellows"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bloody Viking wrote:
> > It's going to be awful hard to keep a chip cool at a heat flux of 100W/sq.in.
> > We will never reach the 10KW chip, not by a long shot. It's already getting
> > hard to aircool chips now, and the next logical step is liquid cooling with
> > the water jacket integrated with the chip package, a water pump, the
> > antifreeze, and a heat exchanger like a hotrod's oil cooler with fans.
>
> I'm not too sure about using water. Though it has an excellent thermal
> coefficient, it's conductivity (especially when you add the inevitable
> contaminants) is pretty shocking in the case of a leak. However, not all
> architectures are as stricken by heat problems as the Intels...
High power RF transmitters using vacuum tubes employed distilled ionised
water as coolant. The water was in electrical as well as thermal contact
with the anodes which could be at 20,000 to 50,000 volts for some megawatt
short wave transmitters. No problems with conductivity. Frequently the
water was pumped round the transmitter buildings as central heating in
winter.
Peter
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
From: Austin Ziegler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:15:01 -0500
On 9 Mar 2001, Steve Mading wrote:
> You guys just don't get it. Proprietary extensions from a work, when
> put into a popular OS, CAN undermine the original through embrace-and-
> extend-and-make-incompatable. If 0.0001% of the code in a derived
> product is different from the original open version, but that 0.0001%
> causes incompatabilites, and the majority goes with the new version,
> the open version becomes useless. Think "Kerberos". MS's version of
> the BSD TCP stack will remain compatable only so long as doing so is
> necessary for them to operate on the net. If they can achieve their
> goal of dominating both the server and client market, then they won't
> have any reason to 'play nice' with the original TCP protocol.
This isn't a code problem, it's a specification problem. Don't try to solve
the wrong problem. (In particular, the Kerberos situation is one where the
specification wasn't specific enough.)
-f
--
austin ziegler * Ni bhionn an rath ach mar a mbionn an smacht
Toronto.ON.ca * (There is no Luck without Discipline)
=================* I speak for myself alone
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
soc.singles,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:25:44 -0500
Scott Gardner wrote:
>
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:49:34 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Part of the definition of intelligence is arriving at the correct
> >answer quickly.
> >
> >If you gave a 13-year old child the following math problem:
> >
> > X = 20 / 4
> >
> > What is X?
> >
> >
> What about the (possibly apocryphal) story of the classroom that is
> given the assignment to add up all the integers from 1 to 100? All of
> the students but one immediately see the method to the solution, and
> start adding 1+2+3+4+5..., while one lone student just stares at his
> paper in silence. The teacher notices this, and goes over to help the
> student along. When she approaches him, he looks up and says "The
> answer is 5,050." He figured out that the 100 numbers in question
> could be grouped into 50 pairs of numbers (1,100), (2,99), (2,98),
> etcetera, and that furthermore, each of those pairs of numbers summed
> to 101. The product of 50 times 101 is a pretty easy calculation, and
> results in the correct answer of 5,050. Additionally, he could do the
> same thing with an arbitrarily long string of sequential integers, so
> even if his exercise had taken longer than the other students, (which
> it probably didn't), it could be argued that his was the more
> "intelligent" approach, even if he didn't figure out this method as
> quickly as the other students figured out the "brute force" method.
That was Karl Friedrich Gauss (1777-1855).
Are you implying that Gauss was not a VERY intelligent man?
>
> Scott Gardner
> LT US NAvy
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:46:37 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> aaron wrote:
> > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
>
> now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
>
Only in comparison to DOS.
Compared to anything else, Windows is comparable to a Formula-1 body
slapped on top of a Ford Pinto with a sand-injection oil system
and water-contaminated brake-lines.
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:47:30 -0500
Anonymous wrote:
>
> aaron wrote:
> > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
>
> now you know why i usually don't read your messages
....must be why you read this one.....
> jackie 'anakin' tokeman
>
> p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
>
> men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
> more even than death
> - bertrand russell
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS Security
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:59:56 -0500
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >
> >http://www.sans.org/newlook/alerts/NTE-bank.htm
> >
> >
> >Charlie
> >
>
> http://www.techrepublic.com/article.jhtml?id=r00220010308bot01.htm
>
> Charlie
How much $$$ did Bill pay Ed Bott to write that crap?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:03:18 -0500
Brock Hannibal wrote:
>
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
> > Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 01:32:23 GMT, Brent R wrote:
> > > >Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
> > > >>
> > >
> > > >JD Salinger had an IQ score of 115, still above average but not showing
> > > >his true ability. To some the man is a complete genius. I also so a show
> >
> > To others, the man is a laughing stock who's out of his league, and
> > should consider himself lucky to have ever been near the White House.
> > Some of those people even think the JFK was not well-served by having
> > a man of such meager abilities on the White House staff.
>
> I think you are confusing JD Salinger, the reclusive author of "Catcher
> in the Rye", with Pierre Salinger, former white house press secretary
> under JFK.
whoops. :-)
>
> --
> Brock
>
>
> "One thing counts in this life: Get them to sign
> on the line which is dotted...A. Always. B. Be.
> C. Closing. Always Be Closing."
>
> http://www.swingout.net/party/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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