On Fri, 17 May 2002, "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If he knew of this thread, Eli'ezer Ben-Yehuda (are you a relative of his? :)) > would be turning in his grave :( Yes. Because Eli'ezer didn't whine. He went out there and wrote patches. > I'm hope I'm not wasting my breath here, but all you need in order to read > Hebrew (besides *knowing* the language, of course, which indeed might be > a problem) is my bidiv program which can convert any iso8859-8-i, win1255 > or utf8 email into visual iso8859-8 which you could view with less, more, > nvi, cat, or whatever you're so inclined. This is stupid. I don't have to install any program to read swedish, do I? I realize it is harder to patch existing code, but if you want to push an agenda, you should not insist everybody spend their precious time to help you push it. > So reading Hebrew email is easy. As long as you want to configure your mailer on every system you use. > Writing is somewhat harder if you *insist* > on using an Editor with no Hebrew support, which is somewhat like insisting > that the C language sucks because "f77" doesn't compile it and f77 is the > compiler you know and prefer. If you want to write an Hebrew message, use > vim and not nvi (or write a patch to nvi yourself). Ah, but I don't want to write a Hebrew message -- you want to have the official list be Hebrew only, which means I'll have to in order to send mail to linux-il. > How difficult is that? Extremely. My brain is wired for one editor, using anything else requires concious thought. I prefer to waste my brainpower on the content, not on fighting with my editor. > Don't give me the "but I switched!" bull - they are not that different, and > it wouldn't kill you to use vim once in a blue moon when you want to write > Hebrew emails. I DON'T WANT TO WRITE IN HEBREW. Is that hard to understand? > I occasionally write and read Hebrew emails, and it's not hard. For you. > I'd personally prefer to > continue writing on the English list (but I don't mind reading both). And read crossposted threads twice? Oh, now, I forget, you'll just hack your procmail. Well, wooptedoo, some of us have better things to do then fiddle with our e-mail. > As a sidenote, one of the best ways to get people to work on Hebrew support > is to "make" them need to use it, see how inconvenient it is and want to fix > it. Oh, this is a great way to push your agenda. Yeah, force people to write Hebrew support. Force newbies to learn how to install it. I don't think you understand the point of free software -- you want it, *you* write it. Not, you want it, you use politics to cause other people to write it. I've got an idea for you -- crack linux all day. This will *make* those pesky people do code audits of linux, right? > This is how/why I worked on my version of the LaTeX 2.09 Hebrew support, > for example - the Technion forced me to write my MSc thesis in Hebrew (the > rules have since changed, and people can write in English now). See? Easier to get the rules changed. > Anyway, to make myself clear: I'll vote for an additional Hebrew list, > but for keeping also the existing English list. Great. "Where do I send my question?" "Both, once in Hebrew, once in English". Which one will you answer? both? crosspost the answer? ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
