Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > A large ramdrive simplfies the installer: everything is run from a > standard location. But you can use the "textmode installer" which (I > believe) also has smaller memory requirements. Is it an issue of not > using a ramdrive? > > I figure that for Redhat the situation is the same.
The text install will run in 32m of ram, but it requires a swap file before it will do anything. > > I've installed RH9 on Pentium I machines 133mHz/32m RAM, but they needed a lot > > more disk space. > > Use custom installtion. Ditch stuff you don't need. Tried that. It's not granular enough. > Do you really need a complete KDE/gnome desktop on such a computer? it > will crawl anyway. No, I what I really wanted, was: 1. Linux kernel 2. X With 32m of ram and a 486/66 to play with, I was just going to use it as an Xterminal. > Ditto for all the documentation in any language that is not English (I > assume there is no Hebrew documentation there). Wouldn't know, can't read Hebrew. Don't need any of the docs. >Re. 3.0.3 > What about ftp.redhat.com ? Nope. It's gone. > Anyway, RH3 uses anncient components. e.g.: ancinet libc and gcc. It > probably has XFree, but it may miss many of the current extentions XFree > now has. In other words: a complete waste of time. I don't think so. Escpecially since I really wanted an Xterminal. I'm running everything on a RH7.2 system soon to be replaced with a RH9 system. > Nothing you can't get from, e.g. RH9.0 + fvwm/icewm/fluxbox That's true, but the customization options aren't good enough for it. :-( > > So I settled for RedHat 6.2. It installed ok, but the smallest system I > > could make was around 500 meg. Using the boot from a 32m partition trick, I > > was able to get the entire disk work without extra software. > > How much time did you spend customizing the packages list? In the end none. I tried a few times and got down to almost 500m, which I got by not doing any customization at all. The first few attempts failed due to a defective hard drive, which much to my wife's delight, I trashed. :-) > Can you send me (privately) the output of: > > rpm -qa --qf '%{SIZE}\t%{NAME}-%{VERSION}-%{RELEASE}\n' |sort -nr I'll do that later. The machine is back on a shelf. I'm back to using my SPARCBook as an X terminal. :-) > Any idea where there is a recent ssh compiled for RH6? I used ssh 1.2.27 as I had it. BTW, that was only available as a source RPM, which took some work as I was orginaly installing in on an A/UX 3. system. > Behind a firewall? That's nice. What about buffer overflows in libpng > that allows your browser to execute arbitrary code? I don't use either of them. On small machines I prefer opera, for the stuff it won't handle, I run mozilla in a X window. Of course for me, Hebrew support is not an issue. > There have been enough holes in both netscape 4.7x and pine. Yes, that's why I use opera. and I use ELM not pine. > Hey, people used X and sendmail even before there were 32MB computers! Yes, I used to run it on a 386/16 with 2m ram. X took too long to load, so I just used virtual consoles. At the time (1991) Linux was a dream, I remeber the articles about it. I was UNIX System V 3.2 which I paid $1000 for, I also ran a forgotten system called Coherent which was like UNIX, but not. I paid $100 for it. It ran on a 8mHZ 80286 with 2m of ram, and an 80meg HD. I wrote over 50,000 lines of what became "public domain" C code on it. Longe bofre anyone had heard of GNU. I used ELM for email, edited files with Microemacs, read netnews with software I wrote, and communicated with UUCP. Pretty much waht I do today on much faster hardware, except I use slrn. I also used smail, because Ineed some local hacks to it, but eventualy converted to sendemail when I upgraded the UNIX machine to system 5 release 4. and a 386/33 with 4m. Lnxux was still not ready for "prime time". > Anyway, on my 32MB computer (debian woody) I have postfix working > happily in the background with (even with procmail and spamassasin). X > and the desktop I use (icewm) are not the major memory hogs: any attempt > to use two "serious" programs (mozilla, galeon, koffice-app, konqki) > together starts a horrible trash. Interesting, I dropped spamassain on my mail maichine cause it overladed it (PI 166, 64m ram). > 800x600 is indeed a problem. Many programs are not desinged well and > have dialogs that won't work well in this resolution. I know, but that was "hot" then, :-( BTW, the SPARCBook I'm using is 800x600 and I'm pretty happy with it. > What do you mean? If you have a reasonable network connection, then > installing a debain woody (the current stable version) workstation is > basically one-time download of ~200-500MB: I prefer to have the images downloaded first so that I don't have to leave everything hanging while it waits for Aruztzi Zhav to come back. I did a jigdo download of the m68k woody and it took almost 3 days from a fast mirror and six downloads running at once. Downloading a 3 cd distro takes about 6 hours if I download ISO's. > > So you can download the complete set of 7 CDs (or buy them) and install > from them. Sure. And if the computer allows booting from the CD then the > installer will boot from the CD. Not any 486. In fact I don't even have any PI's that will boot from a CD. The oldest x8 machine I have that will do so is a Pentium Pro 200. Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-54-608-069 Do sysadmins count networked sheep? ================================================================= To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]