On Thursday 08 March 2007 21:16, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 08:27:00PM +0200, Tzahi Fadida wrote: > > I have recently finished my MSc studies and wanted to find a linux > > related job. Not necessarily kernel hacking/device drivers though this is > > what most attracts. I can say without a doubt that it is difficult to > > convince potential employers of your capabilities without a proven > > working experience. It is the old chicken and the egg problem. I would > > have thought that 3 separate degrees and my 2 years experience with > > PostgreSQL internals would have some leverage, however, i came to believe > > that this is a myth. Usually it goes like this, i get 2-3 professional > > interviews and then get a negative answer. I get the feeling these big > > companies i go to, just fill their interview quotas and in the end takes > > people with the most working experience. Especially in the north, where > > there are something like 30 people contending per job. > > Can someone throw some tips as to how i should proceed? > > After years of seeing very few jobs that were Linux related, I've seen > three this week. The one that was not posted here was for Kayote in > Jerusalem. > > IMHO you have a problem a friend of mine had in 1970. He had a degree from > Tel Aviv Univeristy and worked his way up to a high position in the > data processing department of the police. > > He resigned his position and went to the Univeristy of Pennsylvania, > which at the time was the TOP school for computr sicence to get a Master's > degree. When he was done, he came back here. > > No one would hire him. He was far too qualified and wanted far too much > money to start at the bottom, and as he put it "no one would move over > for me". He went back to the U.S. where there were plenty of new openings > everyday and AFAIK is still there. > > The way I see it is you have several options: > > 1. Go back to school and get a Phd.
I can't, i am academically exhausted :), if there is such a thing. Perhaps in 10 years from now. > > 2. Keep looking around for a startup that needs someone and has no one > to promote. If you know of a one tell me. I was involved in several startups in the past. I am not averse but then again, not highly inclined to go that path with only options :) > 3. Convince someone that you really are willing to work at the bottom > and work your way up. Again, if you know someone, please tell :) > 4. Hope for a boom, where people will be calling you asking to work for > them. I think that instead of a boom, in the last few days there were corrections downwards so the boom in this context means, some small bubble just burst in wall street. I don't think we will ever going to see a climbing like before 2000. I think this is as good as it gets. > 5. Go get an MBA and start your own startup. To be honest, i tried something a few months ago but as you say, i needed an MBA to understand what not to do/start. Not a total waste though, at least i learned to Python pretty well. > 6. Go where the jobs are. How is your Chinese? :-) Like my Japanese. :) -- Regards, Tzahi. -- Tzahi Fadida Blog: http://tzahi.blogsite.org | Home Site: http://tzahi.webhop.info WARNING TO SPAMMERS: see at http://members.lycos.co.uk/my2nis/spamwarning.html ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
