Linux-Misc Digest #740, Volume #20 Tue, 22 Jun 99 10:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: Linux jingle (Dave Furstenau)
MCA/ESDI patches for Linux 2.0.37? (Georg Schwarz)
Re: ppp problem (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Kernel modules and varargs ("Thomas M. Galla")
Session Management Problem Under Gnome + RH6.0 (Ralph Becket)
Help : objdump error ("³ë°æÅÃ")
Re: Mounting a Mac-formatted floppy? (Robert Heller)
Re: Visual programming languages for Linux (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Star Office key problem! ("William B. Cattell")
Re: COL225: LILO says: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (1137 > 1023)
(Chris Raper)
ABCNews article. (Rick Nelson)
Re: NT cross compiler for Linux ("Bezalel Geretz")
Re: PPP problems (Ian Briggs)
Re: Children's Software (Ian Briggs)
Re: Star Office key problem! (Mark Tranchant)
Re: Linux vs. Windoze NT - new security hole found in NT. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PIKT, Problem Informant/Killer Tool, v1.5.0 released
Re: Commercially speaking....? (Mr S A Penny)
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From: Dave Furstenau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux jingle
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:31:27 GMT
James Beard wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
> Is there is a Linux jingle? A catchy little tune?
> [ ...etc ... ]
> We have the penguin, and the slogans. What we need now is a tune.
> Either an original or a rehash of an existing piece. Any budding
> composers out there?
Hasn't anyone ever nominated Lyle Lovett's song "Penguins" (from
"I Love Everybody")? Seems like a natural ...
I don't go for fancy cars
For diamond rings
Or movie stars
I go for penguins
Oh, Lord I go for penguins
[...snip...]
Penguins are so sensitive
To my needs.
[...etc...]
Dave Furstenau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lincoln, Nebraska
SHAKESPEARE ... for Groundlings! http://www.groundling.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Georg Schwarz)
Subject: MCA/ESDI patches for Linux 2.0.37?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 11:52:11 GMT
Are there any any patches for MCA and ESDI that can be applied to Linux
2.0.37?
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Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: ppp problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:07:12 GMT
Some observations...
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:25:17 +0000, kihwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Bill Unruh wrote:
>
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kihwan Kwon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >I installed RedHat 6.0 and I have a ppp problem.
>>
>> Make sure that you use the proper serial port devices, /dev/ttyS0 to
>> /dev/ttyS3, NOT /dev/cua0 to /dev/cua3. Make sure that your /dev/modem
>> points to the ttyS devices not the cua devices.
>>
>
>Sorry, but I can't understand. What is the difference between cua device and ttyS
>device?I thought they are just different names for same thing.
No, they are not just different names for the same thing.
Apparently the /dev/cua* devices implement a different style of locking mechanism
than the /dev/ttyS* devices. The /dev/cua* devices are depreciated, and (IIRC) not
supported or implemented in the Linux 2.2 releases.
>And, how can I make
>/dev/modem points to the
>ttyS devices?
As root,
rm /dev/modem
followed by
ln /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem
or
ln -s /dev/ttyS1 /dev/modem
>I thought I made the modem point to the ttyS2 from control panel. Is
>this what you mean?
What control panel? Unless you have a specific X Desktop Manager, running
under a specific X Window Manager under a specific implementation of the X
window system, you don't have a control panel. Without these special things,
Linux (and all Unices) are TUI based (Text User Interface).
Learn the shell; it's your friend. It will be available on Unix systems
(Linux included) even when there is no GUI, no X, no X desktop, no Control
Panel.
>
>> >It doesn't recognize modem and I checked /var/log/messages then
>> >it says:
>> > Can't open options file
>> > /root/.ppprc: Function not implemented
>>
>> Do you have a /root/.ppprc file? If so, what is in it?
>> iYOu do not need it. The main options are in /etc/ppp/options.
>
>No, I don't have. Thanks
>
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: "Thomas M. Galla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.dev.kernel,linux.sources.kernel
Subject: Re: Kernel modules and varargs
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:20:37 +0200
Dan Miner wrote:
> There are a couple of places with varargs in the kernel. I believe
> I see the problem. Try moving the 'va_list ap' to be the first > declaration.
> varargs are usually based on stack positions and local variable are on
> the stack. So, va_list expect to find the args X bytes away but you've
> added Y bytes more between them. :)
Actually I thought that's the reason, why you have to do the
va_start thing (which is called with the last non variable parameter of the
function as an argument). According to my knowledge va_start initializes the
ap pointer in a way that it points to the first variable parameter of the
function. The number of variable parameters must somehow be specified by the
calling function (e.g., in case of execl() the last parameter must be (char *)
0; in case of printf(), the number of parameters is determined by the format
string).
Anyway, thanks for the hint. - I'll drop you a line, if your hint solved the
problem.
Thanks,
Tom.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralph Becket)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,ucam.comp.linux
Subject: Session Management Problem Under Gnome + RH6.0
Date: 22 Jun 1999 12:44:16 GMT
I recently installed RH6.0 which, by default, sets up with GNOME and
Enlightenment.
When I log in as myself (rather than as root) and then try to change
the theme, I get an Enlightenment error message saying that it cannot
write to my session management file. I also get this warning when I
close the GNOME session.
The message suggests that this could be due to lack of disc space
(there are gigs of the stuff free) or a permissions problem. What it
doesn't tell me is where on the Earth the files in question are and I
haven't been able to divine the answer either by examining such
documentation as exists or through sleuthwork in the filespace.
Any suggestions (pref. by e-mail) would be very gratefully received.
Cheers,
Ralph
p.s. The only oddish thing about my setup is that /home is actually a
pointer to /usr/local/home which is on a different partition. But I
can't see how that would affect things.
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From: "³ë°æÅÃ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help : objdump error
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 21:24:55 +0900
hi all
When I compile kernel
objdump error occrued.
what can I do ?
best regard.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting a Mac-formatted floppy?
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:03:29 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Bailey),
In a message on 22 Jun 1999 00:17:29 GMT, wrote :
DB> I looked in the man pages for mount but couldn't find
DB> what option to give it to mount a Mac-formatted floppy.
DB> I have a few diskettes from a friend's Macintosh which
DB> have some Word files on them and I want to write some
DB> code to grab all the files and convert them to ascii.
DB> Anybody know how to mount a mac floppy? Thanks.
You need either the hfs fs kernel module or the hfsutils package. The
hfs fs kernel module is actually easier, despite the fact that it
involves messing with the kernel. You just get the source, configure
it, build it, and install it. You may need to re-make the kernel
dependencies (I'm not sure). Then you can just:
% mount -v -t hfs /dev/fd0 /mnt
/mnt will now have the Mac floppy -- you can now do the usual sorts of
commands. You can copy the files off with cp or tar or whatever. Note:
the floppy will look like a 'CAPified' file system tree -- in every
directory there will be a .resource and .finderinfo directory containing
the resource forks and finderinfo files. Don't forget to 'umount' the
disk before ejecting it.
The hfsutils are much like the ms-dos disk utils -- there are a set of
programs that go after the floppy directly that replace the normal utils
(cp, rm, mv, ls, etc.).
Note: there is no way anything but a real live Mac can read 800K
floppies. These floppies are not recorded in anything like the normal
way non-Macs format or write floppies. Mac 1.44meg floppies are
readable.
I don't have URLs for the Mac file system code, but there are links off
the Linux Documentation Project pages at http://subsite.unc.edu/LDP/.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Subject: Re: Visual programming languages for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:06:16 GMT
On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:47:06 -0600, bowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Alan Gauld wrote:
>>
>> Visual tools for databases are harder...
>> ie I don't know of any ;-)
>
>db2 for linux might be worth a try, if you have 64 megs of ram, 128 megs
>of /swap, and don't mind being a beta tester.
I don't think DB/2 is a "visual" tool...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Star Office key problem!
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:06:33 GMT
Nails wrote:
>
> I purchased SuSe 6.0 (5c/d set) but 6 weeks on i still cannot get an
> internet connection! How can i get a key for SO5.0 with only a windows
> net connection?
Real easy - connect to StarDivision's site from within Windoze,
fill out the form for a free download, get the key, DON'T worry
about downloading the product. StarDiv. will also email you the
key information although I always print the screen when it first
comes up, just as a backup in case my ISP's mail server is
whacked.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Raper)
Subject: Re: COL225: LILO says: geo_comp_addr: Cylinder number is too big (1137 > 1023)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:29:30 GMT
On 21 Jun 1999 16:12:32 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
wrote:
Hi Cameron
>What's going on here is you're copying bzImage to /tmp which is
>normally in the root FS.
Mmm - Caldera seems to have split my disk into two areas:
/dev/sda1 mounted on /
/dev/sda3 mounted on /home
>The only reason I can see to do that is because your /tmp directory
>is swept clean at boot time. Just use /boot instead of /tmp
>to eliminate this step.
Sure - that's a much better way to do it. I had just got my lilo.conf
set up to point at arch/i386/boot to make things really easy. Then
this lilo problem came up. :-(
>Possible but I don't know of any tools to do it. You'd make a
>file big enough to hold two or three kernels and a map,
BTW, what does System.map do?
>Then mount it with the loopback device (so *that's* what it's for!)
Ahh - nice. :-) So we just have to work out where the file is being
created and it should be OK?
Thanks
Chris R.
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From: Rick Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ABCNews article.
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 08:48:21 -0400
I'm not sure if this is proper netiquette, but since this is a .misc NG,
I figured we should start posting URLs for articles featuring Linux. We
all know and read about it, but the "real world" people are just
beginning to get exposed to Linux, and I think it's important that we
know what John Q. Public knows/doesn't know.
Anyway, ABCNews.com had this to say about MS vs. Linux
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/tech/CNET/cnet_esrmsftii990621.html
Rick
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From: "Bezalel Geretz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.gcc.help,gnu.g++.help,alt.linux
Subject: Re: NT cross compiler for Linux
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:36:16 -0400
just compile the g++ source on a NT compiler (of cource this will only work
if the source is written in ANSI C)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:7k92rb$vm3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for a version of g++ that runs on Windows NT but is able to
> produce executables for Linux on an x386. That is, I am looking for a
> Windows NT cross compiler for Linux. Does anyone know if one
> already exists? Has anyone done this before?
>
> It seems that it should be possible to create (compile) one, but the
> process / instructions for creating gcc cross compilers appears pretty
> involved. If anyone knows of a cross compiler that already exists, or
> can explain to me how to create one, I'd really appreciate the help.
>
> Thanks,
> Curt Moffitt
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PPP problems
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:35:41 GMT
Egg J. LeFume wrote:
:I use wmppp
I'm unfamilar with this. Does it allow you to write the scripts yourself?
Either way, I recommend Bill Unruh's "How to hook up PPP" as a good
step-by-step guide to writing the scripts -- it's at
http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html . (Then attach ppp-on and
ppp-off to buttons or menu items if you want a user-friendly graphical
interface.)
:Jun 21 15:02:48 sunlink pppd[2677]: local IP address 199.234.175.129
<snip>
:Jun 21 15:02:52 sunlink pppd[2766]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
<snip>
:Jun 21 15:03:23 sunlink pppd[2817]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
<snip>
:Jun 21 15:03:55 sunlink pppd[2825]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
<snip>
:Jun 21 15:04:25 sunlink pppd[2831]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
<snip>
:Jun 21 15:04:55 sunlink pppd[2837]: pppd 2.3.7 started by root, uid 0
I don't know why you can't kill pppd, but these endless attempts at
starting new versions of it are unlikely to be helping! Where are they
coming from? You may like to use Bill's guide in order to get your
scripts working by themelves, and then attach them to a graphical
interface when you're happy with them.
Good luck.
Ian
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: Children's Software
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:35:43 GMT
jik- wrote:
:2) Specialized windowing environment
Enlightenment seems like it would lend itself to a 'kids theme' with a big
pointer, big maximize/close buttons on windows and pictures in the
background.
:3) Lots of animals
Well, there's the penguin to begin with.
Having played with my nephew and niece (3 and 2), I'm aware how difficult
it is for them simply to move the mouse around and coordinate it with the
pointer on screen. So a toddlers game could just be a really simple
hide-and-seek kind of thing (move the pointer over different coloured
boxes and something pops out and makes a noise). Slightly more advanced
could be a simple drawing program that draws coloured lines wherever the
pointer goes (and erases them all or changes colour when it moves over an
icon). Then -- really advanced! -- something that involves clicking...
Not necessarily clicking *on* anything -- just clicking.
Ian
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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Star Office key problem!
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:54:05 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Isn't it possible to fax them?
Here's a hint: get SO5.1. On-line registration at the time of download,
and it's significantly faster (I can *just about* use it on my 486).
It is a 71MB download though...
Mark.
Nails wrote:
>
> I purchased SuSe 6.0 (5c/d set) but 6 weeks on i still cannot get an
> internet connection! How can i get a key for SO5.0 with only a windows
> net connection?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Windoze NT - new security hole found in NT.
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:57:56 GMT
> Believe what you want, but you're simply wrong if you think linux beats NT
> on every benchmark for every application. For certain purposes, IIS
> definitely delivers pages faster than Apache on Linux on super high-end
> servers. I still wouldn't run NT for a webserver with that type of load;
> that's what Solaris is for.
> 1) Apache is not superfast at static pages; it's designed for
> flexibility and dynamic content, to the small detriment of static page
> delivery.
No, but if all you're doing is static content and no cgi, ust dhttpd.
There are several different free webservers for Linux.
> 2) Linux (AFAIK) does not support "ethernet striping", where you put
> multiple ethernet cards with the same IP address in a machine and have it
> send through whichever is least busy. This gives NT a large leg-up in those
> (very rare outside of MS benchmarks) situations where you need to exceed the
> raw throughput that your card is capable of.
> Pick your need, do your research, choose the one that's best suited to the
> task. For me, often it's Linux. Often it's Solaris. Often it's NT.
There's a patch, available from the Beowulf project allowing one to
bind together any number of ethernet cards.
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Movesource Network Systems Specialist
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Subject: PIKT, Problem Informant/Killer Tool, v1.5.0 released
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:09:08 GMT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mr S A Penny)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.msdos.misc,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: 22 Jun 1999 13:52:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
$peter$@seahaze.demon.co.uk writes:
>I'll leave you to the wolves.
>Peter,
ho ho ho, how apt ;)
SammyTheSingle
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