Linux-Misc Digest #668, Volume #27               Sat, 21 Apr 01 10:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Argh, Linux 2.4.0 does not boot! ("Stefan Viljoen")
  Re: Is this normal for a printer? (Dave Uhring)
  Re: Is this normal for a printer? (karel)
  ipchain setup ? (Eric Chow)
  Re: Question about Strange Report of Disk Space,thanks. (Yvan Loranger)
  Re: Windows and Linux (Yvan Loranger)
  RAID 5 or 0 for performance? (Dan Smith)
  Re: How to install XF 3.3.6 w/ Mandrake 8.0 ? (Steve Martin)
  Re: RAID 5 or 0 for performance? (Milton)
  Re: having a date automatically appened to a date? (Frank Ranner)
  Re: How to install XF 3.3.6 w/ Mandrake 8.0 ? (Arctic Storm)
  Re: RedHat 7.1 too early ?,... (Christian Rose)
  Re: RAID 5 or 0 for performance? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Curious abt C vs. C++ ("Full Name")
  Re: jpilot problems ("Hendrik Maeder")
  Re: KWord crashes (Kwan Lowe)
  Re: ipchain setup ? ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
  Re: ipchain setup ? ("Tomasz Chmielewski")
  Re: is there a perl script to change user's password in web? (John Timmers)
  WM that uses scripting? (Andrew Purugganan)
  top level dir permissions ("Jeffrey J. Bacon")

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From: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Argh, Linux 2.4.0 does not boot!
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:07:25 +0200
Reply-To: "Stefan Viljoen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Marc De Leenheer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bq9e6$dm9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Igor4584 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : I have a linux system with a number of 2.2.* kernels. (in /boot)
> : they all work fine. I also added a newly compiled 2.4.0. kernel
> : in /vmlinuz.
>
> : When I try to boot it, lilo says "uncompressing kernel............"
> : and then it hangs.
>
> : Any help will be appreciated.

Whoops - did you make a backup copy of a working kernel and register it with
LILO?

Stefan



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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,linux.dev.newbie,linux.help
Subject: Re: Is this normal for a printer?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:40:59 -0500

Missy wrote:

> I have a HP DeskJet 952C, and when anything prints in color from it on
> Linux, it looks pretty ugly....not smooth, just a bunch of dots. Is there
> a way to fix this? Thanks.
> 
> --
> Visit my website at: http://missy842.tripod.com/missy842 !!
> 
> 
> 

You might want to install some drivers from Hewlett-Packard.  I use an 
HP-812C inkjet and the print quality improvement over even the best of the 
other Linux drivers is really noticeable.

http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/

The 952C is pretty well supported, too:

http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/productssupported.php


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From: karel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is this normal for a printer?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,linux.dev.newbie,linux.help
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 10:42:31 GMT

Missy wrote:

> It's good thing you were being sarcastic - I was abou to go look for a
> 'hammer' in my rpm's lol. Really the only HP DeskJet the setup/install had
> for me to choose from was HP DeskJet 950C. This is my only sticking point
> on leaving Windows so far. *sigh* lol

if i'm not mistaking,   HP had made some experimental drivers for printing 
under linux   lately,  you can use this drivers with cups and i heard the 
printing quality is pretty good

they are included in mandrake 8.0

-- 
karel janssen
to email me: change spam in be

Earth is a beta site.

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From: Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ipchain setup ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:53:45 +0000

Hello,

I use a Linux Machine to dial-up to Internet.
And there is another PC(Windows98) connect within a LAN. How can I share the dial-up 
ppp connection with other PCs in this LAN ?

I want to use ICQ, Telnet, FTP, NetMeeting, SMTP/POP3, etc,... Would you please to 
give me a setup sample for IPCHAINS ?


Best regards,
Eric

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: Question about Strange Report of Disk Space,thanks.
Date: 21 Apr 2001 11:27:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)

"harrison" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda1             1.2G  551M  571M  49% /
> /dev/sda6             4.7G  4.4G     0 100% /home
> /dev/sda7             1.2G  106M 1015M   9% /var
> 
> I dont know why available space on /home is 0, it should be 300M left ,
> right ?

There is space reserved for root & you need space for inodes!

--
Merci........Yvan          Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
                               http://www.ncf.ca/vertige

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)
Subject: Re: Windows and Linux
Date: 21 Apr 2001 11:43:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yvan Loranger)

Arctic Storm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>> I wanted to know if there is a way to pick the os you want to use at start
>> up? I want to try using Linux but i want to keep windows.
> 
> When you install Linux, you'll get a setup where you can choose the OS at 
> power-up.
> Before you install Linux, be sure to create some partition space on your 
> hard drive that doesn't belong to Windows.

recommended but not even necessary :)

--
Merci........Yvan          Pour le plein air: Club Vertige
                               http://www.ncf.ca/vertige

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From: Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: RAID 5 or 0 for performance?
Date: 20 Apr 2001 18:55:39 -0400

I have 5 40MB/s SCSI drives (4GB each).  I want maximum performance,
and am not worried about redundancy.  Should I use RAID 5 or 0?  I'd
rather not lose the extra 4GB to RAID 5, but if it would be faster or
better, then I'd do it.

Using software raid under linux 2.2.

Thanks!

--Dan

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From: Steve Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to install XF 3.3.6 w/ Mandrake 8.0 ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:25:55 -0400

Arctic Storm wrote:
> 
> I have one of the Trident video cards that don't work with XFree86 4.x, so
> I must use XFree86 3.3.6.
> I would still like to install Mandrake 8.0.
> During installation, does Mandrake 8.0 give an option for XF 3.3.6?
> Any "easy" suggestions?


Looks like the 3.3.6 release is still available from ftp.xfree86.org
and its mirrors, I'd suggest installing Mandrake with no XFree86
and then downloading the XFree86 tarballs and installing by hand.
(I know nothing about Mandrake's install, so I don't know if they
allow you to do 3.3.6.)

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From: Milton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: RAID 5 or 0 for performance?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 08:24:22 -0400

On 20 Apr 2001 18:55:39 -0400, Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I have 5 40MB/s SCSI drives (4GB each).  I want maximum performance,
>and am not worried about redundancy.  Should I use RAID 5 or 0?  I'd
>rather not lose the extra 4GB to RAID 5, but if it would be faster or
>better, then I'd do it.

RAID 0
--
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  Milton B. Hewitt                     
  CAUCE Member - http://www.cauce.org  
  Proud supporter of the Microsoft Boycott Campaign 
  http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
«««««««««««««««««««««««»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»

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From: Frank Ranner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: having a date automatically appened to a date?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 22:42:41 +1000

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi, i was trying to write a little <bash> script (i am a novice at best)
> and in that script i wanted it to make files that had the date
> appended to them, well i have tried a few things and non have
> worked.  Could someone maybe give me a hint or better yet an example
> (followed by a brief explanation)?  Any help or maybe a point in the
> right direction would really be appricated!
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -Gaiko
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can use backquotes to get the output of a command into your
commandline.
To get a date, use the date command, but use a format specifier to get
the date
in a usable format. 
For example:
date +%Y_%m_%d
2001_04_21

To use it as a filename you probably want to set up a variable:

filename=mylog.`date +%Y_%m_%d`
echo Logging started: `date` > $filename
echo some data >> $filename
echo more data >> $filename

==========
Note that the first echo also obtains the date, and writes it as text to
the file. Since
a single > is used, the file will be created anew. Subsequent echo
commands using >> append 
to the file.
Hope this helps
regards, Frank Ranner

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From: Arctic Storm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to install XF 3.3.6 w/ Mandrake 8.0 ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:50:29 GMT

> > I have one of the Trident video cards that don't work with XFree86 4.x,
> > so I must use XFree86 3.3.6.
> > I would still like to install Mandrake 8.0.
> > During installation, does Mandrake 8.0 give an option for XF 3.3.6?
> > Any "easy" suggestions?
>
> Looks like the 3.3.6 release is still available from ftp.xfree86.org
> and its mirrors, I'd suggest installing Mandrake with no XFree86
> and then downloading the XFree86 tarballs and installing by hand.
> (I know nothing about Mandrake's install, so I don't know if they
> allow you to do 3.3.6.)

The problem I'm having is that Mandrake 8.0 automatically installs XFree86 
4.0.3.  I tried installing the system in "expert" mode, but XF still 
installs automatically, and I cannot stop it, and afterwards, it tries to 
configure X automatically, and that's where the computer crashes.

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From: Christian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 7.1 too early ?,...
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:10:34 +0200

Monte Milanuk wrote:
> > The thing you describe is exactly how it is now. Subscribing to the
> > mailing list where updates are announced, and getting updates from
> > ftp.redhat.com and mirrors, is still free of course, but you can use RHN
> > freely too.
> > I haven't paid anything for RHN, but I registered for a free account. I
> > can use up2date on all of my systems to update them (you have to make
> > up2date know about your free account though) and I can use the web-based
> > interface to monitor all the machines I have, what packages are
> > installed, and what erratas are applicable for each of them. The only
> > thing that costs is the *automatic* update installation and notification
> > service if you want it for more than one system. But since you can use
> > it for free on one system, I use it on one and copy the updates from
> > there to the rest of the machines. Works like a charm.
> 
> Err... kinda of OT, but that is one thing that I have been curious about,
> but have never gotten around to looking into.  Is the one 'free'
> subscription to RHN via up2date only valid for boxed sets?

No. Everyone can afaik register for a free RHN account. Just go to
https://www.redhat.com/network/ and click on "new user", or run
rhn_register on your machine.


> Is it possible (and legal) to take something like say a KRUD release,
> which is RedHat +errata +extras, and use an anonymous up2date connection?

Anonymous up2date exists no longer; you have to have registered for a
free account. But I believe you would be able to use RHN on such a
slightly customized release, yes.


> In short, what is the best way to do this for those of us who may not buy every
> boxed set release?

I don't buy every boxed release :)
I've bought some, and used ISOs for the others. And using RHN was no
problem with either.


> How is the best way to stay updated w/o manually tracking every
> single bugfix and security announcement?

Just run up2date once in a while. Or take real use of RHN and create
system profiles (basically "what packages are installed") for your
machines. Then you can go to RHN once in a while and see exactly which
updates apply to which machine.

Or go even one step further - select the "Software Manager" level for
one of your machines - then you will get errata reports for that system
mailed to you, specifically targeted to the software you have on that
machine. You can even get them automatically installed, if you like that
kind of thing.

The "Software Manager" thing is what is free for just one system, but
personally I have no problem with that.


Christian

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: RAID 5 or 0 for performance?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:01:53 +0200

In comp.os.linux.misc Dan Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have 5 40MB/s SCSI drives (4GB each).  I want maximum performance,
> and am not worried about redundancy.  Should I use RAID 5 or 0?  I'd

Raid 0, as the software raid howto says!

> rather not lose the extra 4GB to RAID 5, but if it would be faster or
> better, then I'd do it.

Look at the fine explanation in the howto. 

> Using software raid under linux 2.2.

Peter

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From: "Full Name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Curious abt C vs. C++
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 06:40:22 -0700

To each their own, as they say. My take is that C++ is a horrible
monster that manages to get together all the disadvantages of OOP and low
level programming. The sooner it dies, the better. Mind you, there are
many people out there who seem to think that C++ is best thing ever.


In article <iGBD6.27$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "JD"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm new to Linux, but I've read enough to realize that there are some
> serious "hot" topics floating around.  It seems C vs. C++ is one of
> them.
> 
> I do not want to start a war, but I am curious as to the pros and cons
> of programming for Linux in each lang.  Is it just preference?  Is it
> FSF/GPL? Corporate affiliations?
> 
> I'm at the point where I want to start trying some coding on Linux and
> would just like to understand better what's going on.
> 
> If this blows up in my face, my apologies are offered ahead of time to
> those annoyed.
> 
> JD
> 
>

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From: "Hendrik Maeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: jpilot problems
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 00:01:48 +0200

In article <9bqqlt$i0g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sync Problem
> 
> Sync This palm has NULL user id It may have been hard reset J-Pilot will
> not restore a palm yet User pilot-xfer to restore the palm and
> install-user to add a username and user ID to the palm. Read the user
> manual if you are uncertain.
> 
> 
> i have tried things (keep in mind i am totally new at this) like:
> install-user /dev/ttyS0 NatureBoy

jPilot requires a palm to have a unique (?) user-id.
You can force your palm to an id, using:
install-user DEVICE USER-NAME USER-ID
i.e.: "install-user /dev/ttyS0 NatureBoy 55"

This should make jpilot accept your palm.

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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KWord crashes
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.help,linux.dev.newbie,linux.help
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:33:15 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Missy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was copying some text to KWord, and I've gotten this message a couple of
> times:

> Short description

> The application KWord (kword) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGEGV).

Kword is buggy. You might try upgrading koffice to see if it increases
stability.


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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipchain setup ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:39:32 +0200

"Eric Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> I want to use ICQ, Telnet, FTP, NetMeeting, SMTP/POP3, etc,... Would you
please to give me a setup sample for IPCHAINS ?

Put this to the end of rc.local file (it should be in /etc/rc.d/):

#!/bin/sh
/sbin/depmod -a
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_raudio
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_irc
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_cuseeme
/sbin/modprobe ip_masq_vdolive
/sbin/ipchains -M -S 7200 10 160

/sbin/ipchains -P forward DENY
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j MASQ

#EOF

To use NetMeeting, you have to use a special module. You can probably find
it on freshmeat.com

Regards,

Tomasz Chmielewski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Tomasz Chmielewski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipchain setup ?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:44:58 +0200

"Eric Chow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

Put also these 2 lines to this file:

echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

#and this line, if you obtain your dial up IP dynamically
echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr

Regards,

Tomasz Chmielewski
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: John Timmers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: is there a perl script to change user's password in web?
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:49:03 GMT

percy wrote:
> 
> is there a perl script to change user's password in web?
> 
> please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You've got a yahoo account, but I would suggest you use google to
search, as its a bit easier to use -- you don't have to wade through
lots of ad banners:

http://www.google.com/search?client=googlet&q=perl%20script%20to%20change%20user%27s%20password%20in%20web

By the way, why do you post to so many f**king newsgroups, and then ask
for personal email...?  I've trimmed the reply newsgroup to just one.
-- 
Regards:
As the romans said: Pecunia non olet "money doesn't stink"
Linux User: 78321 http://counter.li.org  http://timmers.bc.ca

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: WM that uses scripting?
Date: 21 Apr 2001 13:43:39 GMT


I don't know if you're familiar with Litestep which runs on top of that 
OS from Redmond, which allows me to make it look like I'm running Linux 
instead. It's a bit like getting your themes but with the flexibility of 
scripting which allows me to maximize deskspace atthe same time. Bothered 
by wharf? A little button tucks it out of sight. Toolbar too big? A 
similar button. Or, one button tucks them all away. Or skip the wharf if 
you like. Which WM allows me to do that? 

I would like to port some of those themes to my Linux box. If you want 
some theme ideas feel free to browse litestep.net for inspiration ;-)
--
jazz 
Registered linux user no. 164098  +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??

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From: "Jeffrey J. Bacon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: top level dir permissions
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:57:39 GMT

what folders on the top level is it safe to remove Read permission for
all users (except root, or group root)?

ie. I removed Read permission on /home so that users can not list home
directories, but left eXecute on so they could get to their own home
directory

what about /dev? /proc? /var? others?

-- 
================================
Jeffrey Bacon  
================================
Administrator,   Breakfast.ca
Student,         Carleton U.
Java Programmer, Extrordinaire!
================================
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.breakfast.ca/~jjbacon

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