On Jun 8, 2013, at 2:24 PM, Michael Schuh <michael.sc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i wouldn't only rely on the manufacturer but on the chip type; just saying

If by 'chip' you mean 'controller', I agree.   

If by 'chip' you mean the actual flash (memory), then… you're likely mistaken.  
 Intel and Micron are the same thing.  (Micron is a second source for Intel 
flash.)

Other manufacturers (Samsung, etc) also make quality flash parts.   I suppose 
there could be some seconds coming out of China, but if you buy the bottom of 
the price curve, you deserve what you get.   Many people who complain about SSD 
reliability have either mis-used the technology, (e.g. write amplification 
rears it's ugly head) or have purchased the cheapest SSD they can find, and 
then complain when the the part fails.

The upthread advice about Intel SSDs is sound.   Now that the Sandforce 
controller debacle is over, Crucial (who are really a rebrand of Micron (see 
above)) and Samsung also make good, reliable SSDs.

As a none-too-subtle hint: there are reasons why Netgate has, to date, not 
shipped SSD (or SSD-like) technology in our pfSense-powered appliances.   It's 
not that we didn't know how, but rather the difference between "product" and 
"technology demonstration".   If you're only concerned with making one, or a 
dozen, for your own use, the effects of your decision are limited.   When 
you're making 1,000s of units per year, the weight of the decisions caries real 
monetary consequences.

Also note that phk was discussing flash parts a lot more like 'Compact Flash' 
or USB flash than SSDs in that document, while this thread has been about using 
SSDs.   Apples != Oranges  (Just sayin').

Jim


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