I like my system of paying for sending and receiving calls. That way if I don't pick up the phone I can just say I didn't feel like paying to talk to the caller :)
Sent from my mobile device On May 25, 2012, at 4:27 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > Why are you waiting on Reinier for this? Why not develop the standard > yourself. I think he was just offering ideas? > > On 25 May 2012 14:31, <[email protected]> wrote: > @Reinier > :)I really hope you are working on availing us with a clear standard for > this community based Open Source Network: we wouldn't go for issues like > the ones in the mobile phone systems (caller pays in most of Europe, in > America and Canada, you also pay for receiving calls, etc). > I think its after we have your input, that we can then put forward some > ideas. > > Thanks. > > > > @Reinier > > :) could you provide a clear standard on which this project would be based > > in case of interest before talking to and trying to convince the hood to > > set up the access points? > > For example: > > What kinda wireless point devices (probably 802.11 base stations) do they > > need to shop for? > > > > How do the wireless base stations connect to each other, ie the ones in > > Muyenga finding their colleagues in Kamwokya or Ntinda or Mbarara, or > > Mukono, or Makerere or etc? > > > > Are the interconnections kinda point coordination function to a central > > 802.11 station acting as the "mtso" or some kinda distributed coordination > > function amongst the base stations themselves or both configs are > > possible? > > > > Won't there be ip conflicts? > > > > What local mirrors do we intend to maintain and set up for the local > > Reinier Network? (yahoo.ug, hotmail.ug, utube.ug, .....) > > > > How does the Reinier network interface with other service provider > > networks? > > Will the Reinier Network allow mobile devices? (of course it will, will > > the mobile devices be able to run local skype calls or other kinda ip > > based telephony; you know where am heading....) > > > > Thanks. > > > >> Kamwokya as a pilot village sounds perfect to me, as I happen to live > >> (well, stay) and work there :) I think WOUGNET would be willing to > >> participate, with some lobbying from yours truly. > >> > >> It would be nice to have a more surveyable means of communication for a > >> project such as this. Have we launched a forum yet? > >> > >> On 30 April 2012 13:37, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Man Kamwokya alone can pilot this! Let us look at wifi range and how > >>> many > >>> can participate. > >>> If we can get one freenet village, then really hype it, we can get many > >>> others and soon the > >>> villages will be able to interconnect! > >>> :-) openmaps, some costings, a little arm twisting and we are good to > >>> go. > >>> Another village could > >>> be makerere university and other campuses. > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > >>> Behalf > >>> Of Reinier Battenberg > >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:17 > >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group > >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Yeah, i was answering like 5 different emails in one, this thread is > >>> going > >>> so fast :-) > >>> > >>> A freenet is a pretty cool idea. With the amount of IT companies in > >>> Kamwokya, it might even work there for starters. > >>> > >>> rgds, > >>> reinier > >>> > >>> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:05:45 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: > >>> > Of course, if we *could* have it connected to the Internet, then > >>> great > >>> > success. But it is not an absolute necessity for dissemination of > >>> > large files. Actually, if this idea would become popular enough to > >>> > *rival* large repeated Internet downloads (with large repeated > >>> profits > >>> > for the ISPs), then perhaps the ISPs would lower their prices or > >>> start > >>> > giving us price reductions for local traffic, as the alternative for > >>> > them would be not to gain any profit at all. > >>> > > >>> > On 30 April 2012 13:02, Benjamin Tayehanpour > >>> <[email protected]>wrote: > >>> > > Ah, I think you misunderstood my idea. My idea is to have access > >>> > > points which are not connected to the Internet at all. No ISP > >>> > > involvement needed. Rather, they are just interlinked with each > >>> > > other and with some kind of server for storage and retrieval of > >>> ISOs > >>> > > and such. Think of it as an eternal LAN party. > >>> > > > >>> > > On 30 April 2012 12:56, Markus A. Wipfler <[email protected] > >>> >wrote: > >>> > >> It would be great to have a mirror plugged into the UiXP switch. > >>> > >> (Not sure if that is what Reiner is already doing…) That way > >>> ISPs > >>> > >> only have to deal with their own customers traffic. > >>> > >> The harder part is convincing ISPs to price differently based on > >>> > >> (local) > >>> > >> destinations. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> WiFi offloading customer data traffic makes sense to an Operators > >>> > >> (to free up congested Cellular networks) but they will still > >>> charge > >>> > >> you to access their network. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Regards, > >>> > >> > >>> > >> -- > >>> > >> Markus > >>> > >> > >>> > >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Yes, why not? :) Which service provider would you think would be > >>> > >> easier to convince? Do we have any influential ISP people on the > >>> > >> list? > >>> > >> > >>> > >> Barring that: How about creating one (or several) Wi-Fi hotspots > >>> > >> which have uncapped local-network access to a local repository? I > >>> > >> have been toying with the idea for quite some time, and it should > >>> be > >>> doable. > >>> > >> > >>> > >> On 30 April 2012 12:24, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Let us try to convince the service provider to bill ONLY for last > >>> > >>> mile but host the mirror free. That way it is always up to date > >>> > >>> and will incite us to pay (less hopefully) to download the stuff > >>> > >>> they have.**** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > >>> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Sent:* 30 April 2012 11:55 > >>> > >>> *To:* Uganda Linux User Group > >>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] New Mirror**** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ** ** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Actually, several mirrors is not a bad idea. Or at least making > >>> > >>> sure the one mirror has several means of being connected to the > >>> > >>> Internet. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I wonder if we could convice one of the ISPs that it would be a > >>> > >>> great sales pitch to offer free traffic for its customers to an > >>> > >>> in-house mirror? **** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 30 April 2012 08:58, Reinier Battenberg < > >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:**** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> 1 mirror is plenty for Uganda. Rather make sure this mirror works > >>> > >>> well, than have 5 half-baked ones. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> (And this is a good time for me to delete some isos from our > >>> server. > >>> > >>> happy > >>> > >>> someone is taking over. great job!) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> reinier**** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: > >>> > >>> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on board! Can > >>> > >>> > we > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> convince > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? > >>> > >>> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >>> > >>> > On > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Behalf Of > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Wilson > >>> > >>> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 > >>> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group > >>> > >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and publish > >>> > >>> > its > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> mirror on > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > the internet. > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup > >>> > >>> > <[email protected]> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the most > >>> > >>> > popular linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at least > >>> > >>> > according to http://distrowatch.com ) > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > -- > >>> > >>> > Hari > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] wrote: > >>> > >>> > > Hello Members, > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is beginning to > >>> > >>> > > take > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> shape. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug. > >>> > >>> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the exception > >>> > >>> > > of FreeBSD, Debian, OpenSUSE. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > thanks > >>> > >>> > > Alex > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > ----------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. > >>> > >>> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt. > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>> > >>> > > [email protected] > >>> > >>> > > Mailing list archives: > >>> > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>> > >>> > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>> > >>> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>> > >>> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> (including > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > attachments if any). 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