@Reinier :)I really hope you are working on availing us with a clear standard for this community based Open Source Network: we wouldn't go for issues like the ones in the mobile phone systems (caller pays in most of Europe, in America and Canada, you also pay for receiving calls, etc). I think its after we have your input, that we can then put forward some ideas.
Thanks. > @Reinier > :) could you provide a clear standard on which this project would be based > in case of interest before talking to and trying to convince the hood to > set up the access points? > For example: > What kinda wireless point devices (probably 802.11 base stations) do they > need to shop for? > > How do the wireless base stations connect to each other, ie the ones in > Muyenga finding their colleagues in Kamwokya or Ntinda or Mbarara, or > Mukono, or Makerere or etc? > > Are the interconnections kinda point coordination function to a central > 802.11 station acting as the "mtso" or some kinda distributed coordination > function amongst the base stations themselves or both configs are > possible? > > Won't there be ip conflicts? > > What local mirrors do we intend to maintain and set up for the local > Reinier Network? (yahoo.ug, hotmail.ug, utube.ug, .....) > > How does the Reinier network interface with other service provider > networks? > Will the Reinier Network allow mobile devices? (of course it will, will > the mobile devices be able to run local skype calls or other kinda ip > based telephony; you know where am heading....) > > Thanks. > >> Kamwokya as a pilot village sounds perfect to me, as I happen to live >> (well, stay) and work there :) I think WOUGNET would be willing to >> participate, with some lobbying from yours truly. >> >> It would be nice to have a more surveyable means of communication for a >> project such as this. Have we launched a forum yet? >> >> On 30 April 2012 13:37, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Man Kamwokya alone can pilot this! Let us look at wifi range and how >>> many >>> can participate. >>> If we can get one freenet village, then really hype it, we can get many >>> others and soon the >>> villages will be able to interconnect! >>> :-) openmaps, some costings, a little arm twisting and we are good to >>> go. >>> Another village could >>> be makerere university and other campuses. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Reinier Battenberg >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:17 >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yeah, i was answering like 5 different emails in one, this thread is >>> going >>> so fast :-) >>> >>> A freenet is a pretty cool idea. With the amount of IT companies in >>> Kamwokya, it might even work there for starters. >>> >>> rgds, >>> reinier >>> >>> >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:05:45 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >>> > Of course, if we *could* have it connected to the Internet, then >>> great >>> > success. But it is not an absolute necessity for dissemination of >>> > large files. Actually, if this idea would become popular enough to >>> > *rival* large repeated Internet downloads (with large repeated >>> profits >>> > for the ISPs), then perhaps the ISPs would lower their prices or >>> start >>> > giving us price reductions for local traffic, as the alternative for >>> > them would be not to gain any profit at all. >>> > >>> > On 30 April 2012 13:02, Benjamin Tayehanpour >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> > > Ah, I think you misunderstood my idea. My idea is to have access >>> > > points which are not connected to the Internet at all. No ISP >>> > > involvement needed. Rather, they are just interlinked with each >>> > > other and with some kind of server for storage and retrieval of >>> ISOs >>> > > and such. Think of it as an eternal LAN party. >>> > > >>> > > On 30 April 2012 12:56, Markus A. Wipfler <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> > >> It would be great to have a mirror plugged into the UiXP switch. >>> > >> (Not sure if that is what Reiner is already doingâ¦) That way >>> ISPs >>> > >> only have to deal with their own customers traffic. >>> > >> The harder part is convincing ISPs to price differently based on >>> > >> (local) >>> > >> destinations. >>> > >> >>> > >> WiFi offloading customer data traffic makes sense to an Operators >>> > >> (to free up congested Cellular networks) but they will still >>> charge >>> > >> you to access their network. >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> Regards, >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Markus >>> > >> >>> > >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> Yes, why not? :) Which service provider would you think would be >>> > >> easier to convince? Do we have any influential ISP people on the >>> > >> list? >>> > >> >>> > >> Barring that: How about creating one (or several) Wi-Fi hotspots >>> > >> which have uncapped local-network access to a local repository? I >>> > >> have been toying with the idea for quite some time, and it should >>> be >>> doable. >>> > >> >>> > >> On 30 April 2012 12:24, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> Let us try to convince the service provider to bill ONLY for last >>> > >>> mile but host the mirror free. That way it is always up to date >>> > >>> and will incite us to pay (less hopefully) to download the stuff >>> > >>> they have.**** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> ** ** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> > >>> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour >>> > >>> >>> > >>> *Sent:* 30 April 2012 11:55 >>> > >>> *To:* Uganda Linux User Group >>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] New Mirror**** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> ** ** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Actually, several mirrors is not a bad idea. Or at least making >>> > >>> sure the one mirror has several means of being connected to the >>> > >>> Internet. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> I wonder if we could convice one of the ISPs that it would be a >>> > >>> great sales pitch to offer free traffic for its customers to an >>> > >>> in-house mirror? **** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On 30 April 2012 08:58, Reinier Battenberg < >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:**** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> 1 mirror is plenty for Uganda. Rather make sure this mirror works >>> > >>> well, than have 5 half-baked ones. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> (And this is a good time for me to delete some isos from our >>> server. >>> > >>> happy >>> > >>> someone is taking over. great job!) >>> > >>> >>> > >>> reinier**** >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: >>> > >>> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on board! Can >>> > >>> > we >>> > >>> >>> > >>> convince >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? >>> > >>> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> > >>> > On >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Behalf Of >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > Wilson >>> > >>> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 >>> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group >>> > >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and publish >>> > >>> > its >>> > >>> >>> > >>> mirror on >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > the internet. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup >>> > >>> > <[email protected]> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the most >>> > >>> > popular linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at least >>> > >>> > according to http://distrowatch.com ) >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Hari >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hello Members, >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is beginning to >>> > >>> > > take >>> > >>> >>> > >>> shape. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug. >>> > >>> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the exception >>> > >>> > > of FreeBSD, Debian, OpenSUSE. >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > thanks >>> > >>> > > Alex >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > ----------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. >>> > >>> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt. >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>> > >>> > > [email protected] >>> > >>> > > Mailing list archives: >>> > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> > >>> > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> > >>> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> > >>> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>> > >>> >>> > >>> (including >>> > >>> >>> > >>> > > attachments if any). 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