@Why are you waiting on Reinier for this? Why not develop the standard yourself. I think he was just offering ideas?
:)Why are you speaking for Reinier on this? Why not just let him speak for himself? I think he would really want to provide guidance for the idea he brought to the community. > I like my system of paying for sending and receiving calls. That way if I > don't pick up the phone I can just say I didn't feel like paying to talk > to the caller :) > > Sent from my mobile device > > On May 25, 2012, at 4:27 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Why are you waiting on Reinier for this? Why not develop the standard >> yourself. I think he was just offering ideas? >> >> On 25 May 2012 14:31, <[email protected]> wrote: >> @Reinier >> :)I really hope you are working on availing us with a clear standard for >> this community based Open Source Network: we wouldn't go for issues like >> the ones in the mobile phone systems (caller pays in most of Europe, in >> America and Canada, you also pay for receiving calls, etc). >> I think its after we have your input, that we can then put forward some >> ideas. >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> > @Reinier >> > :) could you provide a clear standard on which this project would be >> based >> > in case of interest before talking to and trying to convince the hood >> to >> > set up the access points? >> > For example: >> > What kinda wireless point devices (probably 802.11 base stations) do >> they >> > need to shop for? >> > >> > How do the wireless base stations connect to each other, ie the ones >> in >> > Muyenga finding their colleagues in Kamwokya or Ntinda or Mbarara, or >> > Mukono, or Makerere or etc? >> > >> > Are the interconnections kinda point coordination function to a >> central >> > 802.11 station acting as the "mtso" or some kinda distributed >> coordination >> > function amongst the base stations themselves or both configs are >> > possible? >> > >> > Won't there be ip conflicts? >> > >> > What local mirrors do we intend to maintain and set up for the local >> > Reinier Network? (yahoo.ug, hotmail.ug, utube.ug, .....) >> > >> > How does the Reinier network interface with other service provider >> > networks? >> > Will the Reinier Network allow mobile devices? (of course it will, >> will >> > the mobile devices be able to run local skype calls or other kinda ip >> > based telephony; you know where am heading....) >> > >> > Thanks. >> > >> >> Kamwokya as a pilot village sounds perfect to me, as I happen to live >> >> (well, stay) and work there :) I think WOUGNET would be willing to >> >> participate, with some lobbying from yours truly. >> >> >> >> It would be nice to have a more surveyable means of communication for >> a >> >> project such as this. Have we launched a forum yet? >> >> >> >> On 30 April 2012 13:37, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Man Kamwokya alone can pilot this! Let us look at wifi range and how >> >>> many >> >>> can participate. >> >>> If we can get one freenet village, then really hype it, we can get >> many >> >>> others and soon the >> >>> villages will be able to interconnect! >> >>> :-) openmaps, some costings, a little arm twisting and we are good >> to >> >>> go. >> >>> Another village could >> >>> be makerere university and other campuses. >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> >>> Behalf >> >>> Of Reinier Battenberg >> >>> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:17 >> >>> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >>> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> Yeah, i was answering like 5 different emails in one, this thread is >> >>> going >> >>> so fast :-) >> >>> >> >>> A freenet is a pretty cool idea. With the amount of IT companies in >> >>> Kamwokya, it might even work there for starters. >> >>> >> >>> rgds, >> >>> reinier >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:05:45 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >> >>> > Of course, if we *could* have it connected to the Internet, then >> >>> great >> >>> > success. But it is not an absolute necessity for dissemination of >> >>> > large files. Actually, if this idea would become popular enough to >> >>> > *rival* large repeated Internet downloads (with large repeated >> >>> profits >> >>> > for the ISPs), then perhaps the ISPs would lower their prices or >> >>> start >> >>> > giving us price reductions for local traffic, as the alternative >> for >> >>> > them would be not to gain any profit at all. >> >>> > >> >>> > On 30 April 2012 13:02, Benjamin Tayehanpour >> >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> > > Ah, I think you misunderstood my idea. My idea is to have access >> >>> > > points which are not connected to the Internet at all. No ISP >> >>> > > involvement needed. Rather, they are just interlinked with each >> >>> > > other and with some kind of server for storage and retrieval of >> >>> ISOs >> >>> > > and such. Think of it as an eternal LAN party. >> >>> > > >> >>> > > On 30 April 2012 12:56, Markus A. Wipfler >> <[email protected] >> >>> >wrote: >> >>> > >> It would be great to have a mirror plugged into the UiXP >> switch. >> >>> > >> (Not sure if that is what Reiner is already doingââ¬Â¦) That >> way >> >>> ISPs >> >>> > >> only have to deal with their own customers traffic. >> >>> > >> The harder part is convincing ISPs to price differently based >> on >> >>> > >> (local) >> >>> > >> destinations. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> WiFi offloading customer data traffic makes sense to an >> Operators >> >>> > >> (to free up congested Cellular networks) but they will still >> >>> charge >> >>> > >> you to access their network. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Regards, >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> -- >> >>> > >> Markus >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Yes, why not? :) Which service provider would you think would >> be >> >>> > >> easier to convince? Do we have any influential ISP people on >> the >> >>> > >> list? >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> Barring that: How about creating one (or several) Wi-Fi >> hotspots >> >>> > >> which have uncapped local-network access to a local repository? >> I >> >>> > >> have been toying with the idea for quite some time, and it >> should >> >>> be >> >>> doable. >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> On 30 April 2012 12:24, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> > >>> Let us try to convince the service provider to bill ONLY for >> last >> >>> > >>> mile but host the mirror free. That way it is always up to >> date >> >>> > >>> and will incite us to pay (less hopefully) to download the >> stuff >> >>> > >>> they have.**** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> ** ** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> *From:* [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>> > >>> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> *Sent:* 30 April 2012 11:55 >> >>> > >>> *To:* Uganda Linux User Group >> >>> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] New Mirror**** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> ** ** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> Actually, several mirrors is not a bad idea. Or at least >> making >> >>> > >>> sure the one mirror has several means of being connected to >> the >> >>> > >>> Internet. >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> I wonder if we could convice one of the ISPs that it would be >> a >> >>> > >>> great sales pitch to offer free traffic for its customers to >> an >> >>> > >>> in-house mirror? **** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> On 30 April 2012 08:58, Reinier Battenberg < >> >>> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:**** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> 1 mirror is plenty for Uganda. Rather make sure this mirror >> works >> >>> > >>> well, than have 5 half-baked ones. >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> (And this is a good time for me to delete some isos from our >> >>> server. >> >>> > >>> happy >> >>> > >>> someone is taking over. great job!) >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> reinier**** >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: >> >>> > >>> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on board! >> Can >> >>> > >>> > we >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> convince >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? >> >>> > >>> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> >>> > >>> > On >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> Behalf Of >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > Wilson >> >>> > >>> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 >> >>> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >>> > >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and >> publish >> >>> > >>> > its >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> mirror on >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > the internet. >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup >> >>> > >>> > <[email protected]> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the >> most >> >>> > >>> > popular linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at >> least >> >>> > >>> > according to http://distrowatch.com ) >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > -- >> >>> > >>> > Hari >> >>> > >>> > >> >>> > >>> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] >> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > > Hello Members, >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is beginning >> to >> >>> > >>> > > take >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> shape. >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug. >> >>> > >>> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the >> exception >> >>> > >>> > > of FreeBSD, Debian, OpenSUSE. >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > thanks >> >>> > >>> > > Alex >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > ----------------------------------------- >> >>> > >>> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. >> >>> > >>> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt. >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> >>> > >>> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails >> to: >> >>> > >>> > > [email protected] >> >>> > >>> > > Mailing list archives: >> >>> > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >>> > >>> > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >>> > >>> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by >> INFOCOM: >> >>> > >>> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >>> > >>> > > >> >>> > >>> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted >> them >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> (including >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > > attachments if any). 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The mailing list host is not responsible for >> them >> >> in >> >> any way. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> > >> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> > [email protected] >> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> > >> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> > >> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including >> > attachments if any). 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