"Dr. Marion Ceruti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> Anyway, this has been the argument,
> but I'm not sure it is a show stopper, depending on why you want
> to play the lute. I have two 8c ren lutes and there are times
> when I would like to have 1 or two additional courses. 

Agreed, the tone color of a well-designed 10c will vary from that of a well-
designed 6c.  But, not enough to be a major concern for someone not a 
professional.  MOre important is the repetoire one wants to address.  A shorter 
necked 6c instrument would be the choice of someone doing non-polyphonic or 
semi-
polyphonic works rich in passagi; A large-bodied instrument for someone doing 
continuo and/or bass parts in ensemble.  

Some 9,10,11+ course pieces dont use all of the bass strings and can be adapted 
to 
an 8c by retuning; but your programme then has to allow the time to do that 
retuning.  I would rather make my second and third instrument ones that 
contrasts 
by size or tone color - an orpharion, cittern, treble/bass lute.  My first 
'lute' 
was a lute-tuned classical guitar.  The first lute I had access to was a 
loaner, a 
7c by an unknown maker.  The lute I now own is an 8c.  I enjoy having the extra 
bass strings, but in reality they havent expanded the repetoire I do all that 
much 
(1600 and earlier).

Hard to read your mind, and perhaps futile to try; a lot can be changed by 
chance 
encounters with exceptional performances of newly discoverd old material.
> 
> ++You can think of the courses on a lute like tools in a toolkit.
> If all you need are a few tools (e.g. 6 courses), why carry a large toolkit
> (10c) to do a job that requires only a small one?
> 
> And would it be any different if I "accidentally" didn't 
> bother to string the lower courses?
> 
> ++You would be missing the advantages of a 10c lute. It might be OK
> for practice. It would be like painting your gold medal flat black.
> 
> I can see how it may not be desirable to go the other way--play X-course 
> music on 6-course instruments. 
> 
> ++You can come up with 6c versions of music written for 10c but
> you will need to make some compromises and naturally you will need
> to find another way to play it. It will be harder to play and it won't sound
> as good. 
> 
>  But since my having multiple lutes is not a 
> possibility in the near, intermediate, and probably even long-term future, 
> I'm trying to find a compromise that'll maximize the music I could play, 
> without doing undue violence to the musical text itself.
> 
> ++What kind of music do you want to play?
> 
> (Allow a me brief note on why lutes aren't popular in this day and 
> age.  Instruments are expensive and fragile. 
> 
> ++Some of them are cheap. The problems are peg tuning, 
> 
> Repertoire is in a fairly unfamiliar idiom.  
> 
> ++With exposure to more lute music this problem goes away.
> 
> I was originally put off guitar by the (relative 
> non-)complexity of having to choose 650 mm or 640 mm scale length, 
> cedar/spruce top, "country" vs. classical, and choice of back/side 
> wood.  There's no decent lute tutor that I can find. 
> 
> ++There are books available on eBay. You can order very good
> texts from various companies. I don't have time to write down all
> the information, but email me if you want me to dig it up later.
> I have five ren lute books, two in Italian and three in English.
> 
> The instrument doesn't receive airplay or have superstars 
> prancing on stage--hunk, punk, or babe, variously. 
> 
> ++Thank God! Can you imagine Paul Odette "prancing" around
> with a lute on stage? You can play or prance but not simultaneously.
> 
> And, as Segovia is reported to have said, We live in a noisy age.)
> 
> Tim B.
> 
> Best
> Marion
> 
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