That sums it up very nicely.
I would add that Monteverdi probably didn't add the alfabeto to the songs in
Milanuzzi or intend them to be played in that way.
One of my whinges is that there is a large repertoire of attractive solo
music for guitar and all these songs - which nobody ever performs.
We don't need the guitar in things like the Vespers. We have a huge lot of
stuff all our own.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Martin" <peter.l...@gmail.com>
To: "Lute list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 9:26 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: another day at the office
Evidence of guitar in the 1610 Vespers: no.
Evidence of guitar with voice in Italy at this time: certainly. James
Tyler in his book The Early Guitar gives a four-page listing (pp 96-99)
of Italian printed songbooks with alfabeto, starting with Kapsperger in
1610 and with many others crowding in shortly afterwards. On page 80
he cites Milanuzzi 1624 as including five Monteverdi arias.
On the face of it, then, absolutely fine to use the guitar.
But - as implied in Monica's latest - *all* those books are of secular
music. Not sacred music. From which it would seem that the guitar was
kept firmly outside the church.
Inappropriate, then. (Although yes, it is fun...)
P
2009/12/17 Monica Hall <[1]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
Not just at the moment. It would take too long and I fear my
comments would fall on stony ground.
I first heard the Vespers performed fifty years ago so I think I
have heard every possible permutation of it. I can't say that
adding the baroque guitar this piece did anything for me ...but at
least I listened to it.
Monica
----- Original Message ----- From: "David van Ooijen"
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To: "Lutelist" <[3]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 5:34 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: another day at the office
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Monica Hall
<[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
[use of b-guitar in Monteverdi's Maria Vespers]
inappropriate
Can you tell us why you think so?
David
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