Interesting that you mention silent movies. Yes, those gestures were exaggerated and contrived to compensate for the lack of sound. Some of the techniques were hold-overs from theatre in an era when lighting was poor. A friend of mine who is a cinematographer says, "Video is 90% audio". The silent movie era had to rely on gross gestures and facial expressions coupled with Wurlitzer organ accompaniments to make up for that 90%. And, YES, it's way cool what the good directors did. Have you seen what Abel Gance did with "Napolean"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napol%C3%A9on_%281927_film%29 Tom > What about hand/body gestures and facial expressions in baroque opera? > ...or a silent movie, for that matter. Very artificial, contrived > and totally HIP. > > Chris > > > Christopher Wilke > Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer > www.christopherwilke.com > > > --- On Sun, 12/5/10, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote: > > > From: wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov > > To: "howard posner" <howardpos...@ca.rr.com> > > Cc: "Lute List" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > > Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 4:32 PM > > Well, I guess I started this > > (interesting, thanks to all commentators!) > > "gesture talk". > > > > To me K's gestures in this certain video we talk here, > > certainly are of no > > "annoyance". Truly. They just spoil and hinder my possible > > enjoyment of the > > music - I just cannot close my eyes, when the music is made > > visual. And as > > someone already wrote, there certainly are cultural > > differences in what > > looks natural and what looks artificial. To me watching K's > > "suffering"(?) > > face in this very video spoils all of the possible musical > > message. And as > > I wrote in my message - this is my problem, not K's! > > Neither anyone else's, > > who doesn't get disturbed... > > > > Arto > > > > > > On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:06:03 -0800, howard posner > > <howardpos...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > > > > > >> The video in question was not made for any > > audience > > > > > > It must have been made for someone to see. This > > was a professional shoot > > > (with three cameras?), and EK could scarcely have been > > unaware of the > > > closeup camera. > > > > > > That said, his gestures do seem to be part and parcel > > of his performing > > > style, which is full of big, impulsive gestures. > > Reminds me a bit of > > > watching Jim Carrey in his more manic roles. In > > the lute world, where > > > gestures are normally small, I can see where it can > > inspire great > > > enthusiasm in some auditors, and great annoyance in > > others. I suppose > > I'm > > > somewhere in the middle, I suppose. > > > -- > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > > > > > > > >
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