What about hand/body gestures and facial expressions in baroque opera?  ...or a 
silent movie, for that matter.  Very artificial, contrived and totally HIP.

Chris


Christopher Wilke
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com


--- On Sun, 12/5/10, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:

> From: wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov
> To: "howard posner" <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
> Cc: "Lute List" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Date: Sunday, December 5, 2010, 4:32 PM
> Well, I guess I started this
> (interesting, thanks to all commentators!)
> "gesture talk". 
> 
> To me K's gestures in this certain video we talk here,
> certainly are of no
> "annoyance". Truly. They just spoil and hinder my possible
> enjoyment of the
> music - I just cannot close my eyes, when the music is made
> visual. And as
> someone already wrote, there certainly are cultural
> differences in what
> looks natural and what looks artificial. To me watching K's
> "suffering"(?)
> face in this very video spoils all of the possible musical
> message. And as
> I wrote in my message - this is my problem, not K's!
> Neither anyone else's,
> who doesn't get disturbed...
> 
> Arto
> 
> 
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:06:03 -0800, howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> > 
> >> The video in question was not made for any
> audience
> > 
> > It must have been made for someone to see.  This
> was a professional shoot
> > (with three cameras?), and EK could scarcely have been
> unaware of the
> > closeup camera.
> > 
> > That said, his gestures do seem to be part and parcel
> of his performing
> > style, which is full of big, impulsive gestures. 
> Reminds me a bit of
> > watching Jim Carrey in his more manic roles.  In
> the lute world, where
> > gestures are normally small, I can see where it can
> inspire great
> > enthusiasm in some auditors, and great annoyance in
> others.  I suppose
> I'm
> > somewhere in the middle, I suppose.
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