Dear all, 

I wonder if his name has something to do with the city of Visé, north east of 
Liège in Belgium?
The dutch name is WEZET but in the Walloon language it is called Vizé.
According to wikipedia in french, it has a long history 

It would add another lute/baroque guitar composer to our country ;>))

All the best
Greet


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Namens Monica 
Hall
Verzonden: zaterdag 1 maart 2014 12:39
Aan: Martyn Hodgson
CC: Lutelist
Onderwerp: [LUTE] De Visee

Thank you very much for that Martyn.

I don't know how many people have actually  read these liner notes.   Three 
whole pages are taken up with this "biography" - it is not until you turn to
p.4 that you discover - Oh by the way - none of this is true.  Some of the 
information is factually accurate.  Some of it is not - which I think is 
inexcusable - Satoh is apparently unaware that Louis XIV died in 1715 and that 
when De Visee was appointed guitar teacher to the King it was to the 9 year old 
Louis XV.  Some of it is obviously bollocks.

When I first read these I queried on this list whether there was any evidence 
that De Visee was born in Portugal - not after all impossible - but did not get 
a satisfactory answer.  I did my best to trace the source of this information - 
which had found its way into Wikipedia - perhaps that is where Satoh got the 
idea from.  It seems that somebody some time ago suggested that De Visee's name 
implied that his family (rather than he
himself) was Portuguese in origin. And so it goes. Endless pointless 
speculation masquerading as musicology,

I can understand why David and and others who know Satoh personally and admire 
his playing might want to try and defend him. But I think that it needs to be 
said that people in his position - after all he taught at one of the most 
prestigious music colleges in the world until recently  - shouldn't indulge in 
idle fantasy which may mislead the unwary.  At the end of the day he has said 
nothing about the music or the manuscript from which it is taken which would 
have been much more interesting.

As ever
Monica


----- Original Message -----
From: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Lute Dmth" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 8:24 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise


>
>
> Perhaps you missed what Monica Hall wrote after quoting Satoh: “This is
> all my imagination and conjecture"? She added Satoh's more misleading
> comment "....based on the few documents concerning De Visee's life"
>
>
> In short, Satoh misleads by suggesting that his spurious conjectures,
> especially on birth place, are somehow based on historical sources.
>
> MH
>
> ________________________________
>>>  From: howard posner <howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
>>> To: Lutelist <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>>> Sent: Friday, 28 February 2014, 23:32
>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bartolotti's continuo treatise
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I think you are being disingenious. What Satoh actually says is
>>>>  "This is all my imagination and conjecture, based on the few
>> documents concerning De Visee's life".
>>>>
>>>>  How is the reader supposed to know what is based on these few
>>>> documents
>> and what is idle fantasy?
>>>
>>>
>>> I think “This is all my imagination and conjecture” pretty much gives it
>> away.
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>>
>
>




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