Am Samstag, 21. Oktober 2006 18:01 schrieb Asger Ottar Alstrup: > Georg Baum wrote: > >> ** NO NEW FEATURES ARE ALLOWED FROM RIGHT NOW ** > > > > I do not agree with this one if it means all new features, not just those > > that require changes to the core. > > The sooner we fix the basic things, the sooner we can introduce new and > small features. The fact is that right now, things are not improving. > Maybe basic features working last weekend, but they don't know. We HAVE > to react to that.
Sure. Note that I do partially agree with the freeze. > > I partially do not agree, and I feel betrayed: A long time everything is > > allowed, and then from one day to the other we are in a freeze. Basic > > functionality like latex encodings that has been working in previous > > releases is not allowed to come back, but new features like multiple > > windows are allowed to be finished. > > We are not trying to be unfair, or unreasonable. But you are. If drastic measures are needed, then I expect that the first thing that is forbidden is new stuff that touches the core. And multiple views (although I agree it is nice to have) is such stuff. > We just have to draw a > line somewhere, because we feel that something has to change compared to > how things are going now. The sooner people use their energy on fixing > things, the sooner new features can come in again. If you look what I did during the last months you will see that most of it was bug fixing. Now I know that this was wrong and I should have done some other stuff instead. > Of course, bug fixes are allowed. That is the point of the freeze: To > improve the quality of the program, not to make it worse. I could not conclude that from the original announcement. And I remember well how hard I had to fight for some fixes during 1.4 freeze, and that some of them did not get in, so I doubt that these things would be allowed. > You could have come to Denmark and participated in the discussion. I would have liked to come, but I could not for private reasons, and I told you that. > We hope that you will reconsider and help us fix the show stoppers. The > sooner we reach the critical point where trunk is usable again, the > sooner the fun can begin again for all of us. Maybe, we will see. > We are all unhappy about the current state, but we are where we are. We > did discuss whether we should seriously revert to the 1.4 code base, and > maybe even start fixing the issues in 1.4 instead of continuing with the > trunk. You could have had a look at 1.4 issues indeed. I expect that many of them can be fixed in trunk and 1.4 in a very similar way. > In the end, that was considered too drastic, so we decided that > we should try for maybe 6 months to rescue the trunk. Do you think this > is the wrong decision? No. But this announcement came too suddenly after a period where everything was allowed. Georg
