On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 09:18:50PM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2017-02-27, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 04:55:43PM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote:
> >> On 2017-02-26, Guillaume Munch wrote:
> >> > Le 25/02/2017 à 21:09, Enrico Forestieri a écrit :
> 
> >> >> Then, a decision has to still be taken as regards the original problem
> >> >> in this thread. I think that the patch Günther proposed on Jan. 25 is
> >> >> the less controversial one.
> 
> >> > I think you mean
> >> > https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg198620.html
> 
> >> However, this patch is obsolete. As Guillaume pointed out, there are use
> >> cases for the dashes with and without line break opportunity. (See also
> >> the attachments to https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10543)
> 
> > A patch that does not exist cannot obsolete anything ;)
> 
> But it can be obsolete. Obsoleted by new findings during testing and
> discussion of the problem.

This is a sophism.

> > At this point we have two simple alternatives. Either the above one or
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg198615.html
> 
> Both have serious drawbacks. See #10543.

TL;DR

> > Then, I refuse to have a mess in the latex output only to obtain a simple
> > en(em)-dash when LaTeX already uses -- and --- for those dashes.
> 
> LaTeX supports — for the em-dash (with inputenc utf8), so why don't use
> it?
> 
> Using font ligatures as an input convention is seventies technology,
> obsoleted by LaTeX2e 20 years ago.

Another sophism.

> LyX supports — for the em-dash since 2007. 
> I refuse a change where I need to put \textemdash in ERT to get rid of
> the drawbacks of the font ligatures.
> (The suggestion in msg198615 would convert all literal em-dashes into
> "---" without any way to bypass this conversion. This breaks documents
> that use direct Unicode char input.)

Then let's apply
https://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org/msg198620.html

-- 
Enrico

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