Brian,
That was not called for. If you are sick of it, use the delete key.
From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?
On 10/23/2015 9:39 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
Daniel learn to read before typing. Did I say VO is the only thing about
accessibility, no. I am so sick of you and your don’t let the Lord split ya,
you are such an idiot. Yeah, I called you an idiot. Any time anyone says
something you do not agree with you there you go saying don’t let the Good Lord
split you. If you do not agree with something someone says just ignore it and
keep your mouth shut. Now on to the intelligent comment from Mary. Mary I
should have phrased better. I was not talking about Tim Cook not knowing about
accessibility as I agree I would not expect him to know that much about
accessibility. I was talking about developers at Apple as I found out that no
one or very few individuals who do all the programming at Apple have an
understanding of what accessibility is, and no I am not just talking solely
about VO, as VO is only one part of accessibility. The conversation I was
having with a person who has worked for Apple for awhile had to do with
accessibility
including for the hearing impaired, mobility impaired, and more.
On Oct 23, 2015, at 10:45 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree, Mary, hence why they have their own team of accessibility engineers,
that *have* to work on 4 different operating systems, and work on not just
Voiceover. It makes me sick how many people think VoiceOver is the only
accessibility feature Apple has to work on at all times, so they expect
features to be 100% bug free upon release. Apple will get to the issues when
they get to them, so people just need to be patient, or report them every so
often to get them bumped up in the priority list, or don’t let the door hit ya
where the good lord split ya.
On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:21 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Brian,
I'm not sure what you meant by higher ups. But I wouldn't expect the top
management at a company like Apple to have much of a clue about details
regarding accessibility. The real issue is quality control and whether or not
the people implementing excess ability have a clue. If Tim Cook doesn't really
understand all that much about how voiceover or assistive touch works, that
really is good. He doesn't need to know that kind of thing.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 23, 2015, at 6:13 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
Thanks for the heads up will be staying put on Yosemite for good now. Captain
and my experience was just awful real big step backwards as far as
accessibility. And I am not surprised as I met with someone from Apple
yesterday and was stunned to hear that none of the higher ups have a real
understanding of accessibility and with the lack of stability in Capitan and VO
I am not surprised.
On Oct 22, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
My opinion is that unless you have a specific reason to move to El Capitan,
staying put will give you the better experience. At this stage I’d say the El
Capitan experience is merely tolerable, but not great. Responsiveness is a
definite plus, and I have come to endure iBooks for sheer lack of choice and
find that I’m glad not to have to remove it every time I update. But other
than that, it’s a bit meh, really.
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