Don’t forget, if Donald Trump gets elected, how will the world handle that as thus far he has not had a good press! > On 24 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > Hey you skirt wearing crazy man, we live here to. > What about New Zealand, I’m hert by that, > > Just because no one knows we’re down here doesn’t mean we don’t exist. > > Hmmmp. Off I go in a huff! > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Andy > Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 5:36 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well > > Hi all. > > I'm Scottish and a proud European and a proud member of this and other lists > , concerned with the blind community , which include all of my friends in > Britain America, Canada and Australia. > Can I please assure you all that Scotland did not vote last night to leave > Europe! > > In Scotland we have 32 Local Authorities and each returned a vote to remain > with in Europe. That's Leave 0 votes, Remain 32 votes, to keep things as > they are, which represents 62 % of our voting community, so pleas, to my > American friends, don't be Trumpted with this rubbish, the result was a > vicctory for my little country.. > > However, little Scotland is only a quarter of the UK and it seems that > almost every one else voted to leave. > > I'm a proud Scot, a British resident and until yesterday, a equally proud > Euro pean. > > Today, Well I’m gutted. I'm no longer considered, against my will, to be > European as I've been dragged out of this relationship by my English naibours > and I find myself Scottish and Brittish only once more.. > > To be honest because of the treachery from Westminster, I've turned my back > on Brittan and declare that I'm Scottish and only Scottish and proud of it > and have lifted the flag for Independence again. I intend to volunteer to > work voluntary with the Scottish National Party and intend to work flat out > to help us make our country remain as a part of Europe, and continue to > welcome all workers and visitors from all over the world to make the Scottish > Experience a reality for them, and above all, an enlightened and valuable > experience for them. > > Donald Trump has today, on the shores of Scotland expressed his delight that > the UK has voted to leave the EU. > > He's daft. He expressed his feelings in a country that is devastated with > the result of last nights vote. > > Does he have no P. A. staff: > > Surely, before opening his big fat mouth "again" he would have checked the > beach to make sure there was a safe landing for him and his cronies. > > But this is Donald. This is the future with Scotland forced into turning her > back on friends and collegues in Europ with Donald Trump as the most powerful > man in the world. > > As for me, I’m Scottish and like many of my American and Canaidian friends, > I’m very proud of my country and heritage and I'm sure you will agree, that > there is nothing wrong with that! > No matter the future, I will remain very much part of our very special blind > community and I’m proud of that also. > > So thanks guys and thanks for thinking of little Scotland at a time of > turmoile. > > We will always be friends in this small blind community of ours, and that's a > promise, so please fink of us in your thoughts tonight. Our special > relationship goes back to the war of independanse and valuable and not to be > tossed aside by the likes of Trump! > > > > Very best wishes as always. > > Andy Logue from Kilcreggan Scotland. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kawal Gucukoglu <mailto:kgli...@icloud.com> > To: Macvisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 2:04 PM > Subject: Re: Brexit, wishing our friends across the pond well > > So today, I have very anxious feelings of what will be for Britain next? > > Scotland wishes to leave and may be we get the reunification for Ireland so > where does this leave the rest of the UK, England and Wales? > > I just hope inflation and interest rates will not rise and present risks to > our livelihoods. I deplore British citizens saying that this vote was worth > people losing their jobs. I have been feeling very emotional and upset > because of some selfish people in society. I voted to remain like I said and > on TV at the moment there are those who are still arguing as to what happens > next and the rest of the EU saying that there will be consequences. How can > the world heal, come together and be more tolerant? Then Mr Trump changing > his tune to fit the circumstances. American are also in some difficulty as > the Democrats had a sitting in congress to get gun laws but the republicans > say no so there is no unity in the world and at present I am worried about > how things will pan out for the world. Sorry this is pessimistic but I live > for the long term and not the short. I am a deep person and take seriously > the world’s problems to heart. > > Kawal. > > On 24 Jun 2016, at 13:05, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com > <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Scott, > Sorry to hear about your loss. :( > As for England I also will raise a frosty mug of Sam adams and celebrate and > wait till "november" here in the USA for the same! > GOD Bless America! > Home of Apple! :) > Talk soon > Chuck > > On Jun 23, 2016, at 11:58 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > > Well I’ve been riveted watching this all day, I’m going on 24 hours here, > it’s also a welcome distraction to some really really bad stuff happening on > my family level right now so forgive me if I use your country’s politics as a > distraction.:) My grandmother oddly enough who is the connection to Britain > for me passed after 96 years on this rock and it’s all closing in on me now > that I am only one of 3 left in our family and the other 2 are on the shorter > end of their lives than longer so I’m feeling a bit freaked out and my > numbers are dwindling down to 0 so if I get in the weeds you get it. > To give you an idea why I feel such a connection with your country my family > on my mother’s side came to this country fairly recently. My grand mother > and grand father came over to this country on boats I believe before world > war 2 and settled on the east coast as well as Detroit. My great Grand > father, mother’s grand father actually worked on your crown jewels. I have > jewelers drawings hand made by him used to create some of the items in your > tower of London today. I’ve frequently thought about giving them to one of > your museums if you’d have them but I have no idea their value or if they > represent any thing special to the British people or even what or who should > have them. It’s this man’s daughter, my grand mother who passed this > morning. She taught me so much about your part of the world from your money > to telling me stories about my cousins who I don’t know but sell fruit in > fruit stands somewhere in London or another husband and wife relation of ours > who I met once years ago and don’t know exactly how they fit but they own a > sweater company in Scotland. I remember these people coming to visit us and > my Grand Father who is from Whales loved taking them to sites around the > north east US where we americans beat back the British during the > Revolution.:) He loved giving the English side of our family a real ribbing > about the revolution when they would come to visit. In the same breath > though, my grandfather served during World War II and I know always talked > about the Brits he served proudly with. > I say all this because I’m not the only one. So many of us have such > connections to your island. So understand when you say all in together and > all that, I consider very much we folks on both sides of the pond on the same > team. > BTW, BBC and ITV just called it in favor of leaving I’m shocked but you’ve > definitely made things interesting over here. Your vaporizing my financial > holdings as I watch this, thanks guys☺, but I’m in, I wish we could shake off > our oppressive federal government like you all just did the EU. The rebel in > me feels a real connection to your side right now. Not for racial reasons, > not for fear of any group but for self determination, self rule, beating back > the huge corporate and global interests that do not have your country’s best > interest at heart. I know the economic arguments made against you leaving > and I say bunk. You’re a strong country, you do not need the approval of > brussels to get through your day. The UK alone is a massive economy, > thankfully you never wrapped your self in the Euro so your pound will carry > on. I will buy many of your pounds when they tank over the next few days > because the fears are irrational and I will do well as will you all doubling > down on yourselves. > So folks in Florida or Texas, if you wish to break away from the union let me > know, I’ll move down and join you.:) I feel like blasting dixie and blasting > a few hundred rounds in the air in celebration of someone, finally, beating > back the powers of globalization and centralization of regulation with out > representation. In stead so I don’t get labeled a racist or arrested for > making to much noise or being armed in the US I will hoist a cold one in your > country’s honor. > > > To my Grand Mother Jean and to the fine people of Britain, stay or leave, way > to go! Nicely done and all that on all counts. I drink a Sam Adams beer from > the Boston Brewing company in your honor. The irony is not lost on me nor is > it lost o nme that I’m siding with the tories.:) > > > And the associated press just called it and someone is pounding on Borris > Johnson’s door trying to wake him up. Great stuff! > > CNBC just called it in favor of leave also. > > Wow, I’m shocked! > > On 6/23/16, 6:11 PM, "Sabahattin Gucukoglu" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> on behalf oflistse...@me.com > <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote: > > Mmm, your president does seem to have quite a fascination with teats, doesn’t > he? :) > > Regardless, I imagine his comments did more to inflame the Brexiters than to > encourage the Bremainers. But, as it happens, I too hope to remain. The > worst part about it is that it’s based more or less purely on pragmatism > rather than principle: the far-right government now in power will only use > Brexit to lurch even further to the right, without our delightful, if > meddlesome, friends in Brussels to prevent them by (undemocratically, it’s > true) arriving at sensible and socially just policy decisions on the merits. > The hypothetical independent state of Britain, in a climate of establishment > neoliberalism and first-past-the-post voting, seems distantly unlikely. And > as a believer in more EU unification in any event (Turkish parents), I can’t > say I feel too bad about that. Better together, and all that jazz. :) > > Still, I do wonder what that hypothetical Britain, under the rule of a > democratically elected liberal government, would look like. It’d be cosy, > but would it make me happy? Initially, probably. Maybe we could make it > work at the negotiating tables where decisions are made. But I’d feel bad > for the other EU member states, and the project. We’d be turning away > everything it, and all of the men, women and children in its member states, > represent. My individualistic side says it makes no difference as long as > I’m living in the exact same country; my squidgy insides say otherwise. No, > the EU isn’t a utopia, but by remaining, at least we can fix its faults, > which is something a lot of Brexiters seem completely reluctant to take any > interest in doing. And maybe we can one day look forward to a truly united > Europe. > > So maybe it is about principle, after all. :) > > Well, we shan’t have long to find out, at any rate. 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