LOL! I shall keep that in mind! :) Very true. Olivia "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > Now Olivia, > As an avid science fiction reader, watcher and even singer, I feel you have > insulted science fiction to the core by slapping the name of a noble genre > onto a company which has absolutely no interest in the end users of its > products. Remember the first law of robotics? Do not harm humans. Jaws has > certainly harmed me financially and at times emotionally. Be kind to science > fiction, and don't besmirch its good name. :) lol > > Friendly, > Chris > > On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Olivia Norman wrote: > >> What do you feel Freedom Science-fiction and jaws provide that VO lacks? >> I'm just curious. >> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs >> >> On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, cathyk wrote: >> >>> Hi Kolby, >>> I bought my MacBook Pro about a month ago, and am largely happy. But >>> there are a few important things to know. 1) VO doesn't work with all >>> programs, notably MS Word. I was surprised that such an industry >>> standard requires finding workarounds every time you open a document, >>> which isn't ideal when doing collaborative writing projects or comment >>> on hundreds of papers electronically as I do. Whether this is Apple's >>> or Microsoft's fault, the bottom line is that Word files need to be >>> "translated" through programs like "Preview" (which comes installed) >>> or Pages in iworks, which requires laying out another $50 or $60. >>> Some say the new freeware version of Open Office works better; I >>> haven't tried, so I'd love to hear from someone who writes and edits a >>> lot. Even if it works better than the paid version, I suspect other >>> features get lost - alas, you get what you pay for. 2) the >>> portability features seem terrific but you should consider which >>> environments you'll be wanting to access because at least for now the >>> Mac market is quite small in comparison to PCs, so the number of >>> computers where your USB settings will work is fairly small. 3) VO is >>> very good, but it isn't JAWS or ZoomText. Many of us dream of a day >>> when we can use out-of-the-box technology just like everyone else; >>> we're much, much closer, but that day isn't there yet. 4) The user >>> support is limited for VO. This discussion list is excellent, but I >>> still have a growing list of questions that people can't answer and >>> that are impossible to look up. Even the in-depth manual isn't *that* >>> in-depth. This means there's a kind of pioneer spirit to the whole >>> thing, with people figuring out this and that just like they would >>> sort out how to repair a wagon wheel a thousand miles from >>> civilization. That's exciting, hip, and creative, but sometimes you >>> just want a simple answer to a nagging problem that's still beyond >>> even the best macvisionaries. All that said, I'm enjoying my new >>> machine. >>> Best, >>> Cathyk >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 16, 2:10 pm, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> First off, don't worry about what may be going on at the moment, with the >>>> update. Mac OS is still so much easier in general to deal with than >>>> windows and its various screen readers. This may not apply for everyone >>>> on here but to me the choice was economical. Every time there was a new >>>> version of windows, I'd have to purchase a new version ("upgrade") of >>>> ZoomText. I got tired of playing that game. Every time I buy a new >>>> version of Mac OSX, I get a new version of Zoom *and* VoiceOver :) >>>> >>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Everyone, >>>>> I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what >>>>> satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and >>>>> windows. I have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very >>>>> stable screen reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, >>>>> and from what I have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will >>>>> be purchased in my very near future. I will go to an apple store for some >>>>> hands on time with a mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences >>>>> with me I would appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve >>>>> going from the windows operating system to the mac operating system, but >>>>> I am ready and willing to learn all that I can. >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Kolby >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates) >>>> Pete Naldahttp://www.myspace.com/musikonaldahttp://www.facebook.com/lpnalda >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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