LOL! I shall keep that in mind! :)
Very true.
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs

On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Chris Snyder wrote:

> Now Olivia,
> As an avid science fiction reader, watcher and even singer, I feel you have 
> insulted science fiction to the core by slapping the name of a noble genre 
> onto a company which has absolutely no interest in the end users of its 
> products. Remember the first law of robotics? Do not harm humans. Jaws has 
> certainly harmed me financially and at times emotionally. Be kind to science 
> fiction, and don't besmirch its good name. :) lol
> 
> Friendly,
> Chris
> 
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Olivia Norman wrote:
> 
>> What do you feel Freedom Science-fiction and jaws provide that VO lacks?
>> I'm just curious.
>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs
>> 
>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 4:25 PM, cathyk wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Kolby,
>>> I bought my MacBook Pro about a month ago, and am largely happy.  But
>>> there are a few important things to know. 1) VO doesn't work with all
>>> programs, notably MS Word.  I was surprised that such an industry
>>> standard requires finding workarounds every time you open a document,
>>> which isn't ideal when doing collaborative writing projects or comment
>>> on hundreds of papers electronically as I do.  Whether this is Apple's
>>> or Microsoft's fault, the bottom line is that Word files need to be
>>> "translated" through programs like "Preview" (which comes installed)
>>> or Pages in iworks, which requires laying out another $50 or $60.
>>> Some say the new freeware version of Open Office works better; I
>>> haven't tried, so I'd love to hear from someone who writes and edits a
>>> lot.  Even if it works better than the paid version, I suspect other
>>> features get lost - alas, you get what you pay for.  2) the
>>> portability features seem terrific but you should consider which
>>> environments you'll be wanting to access because at least for now the
>>> Mac market is quite small in comparison to PCs, so the number of
>>> computers where your USB settings will work is fairly small.  3) VO is
>>> very good, but it isn't JAWS or ZoomText.  Many of us dream of a day
>>> when we can use out-of-the-box technology just like everyone else;
>>> we're much, much closer, but that day isn't there yet.  4) The user
>>> support is limited for VO.  This discussion list is excellent, but I
>>> still have a growing list of questions that people can't answer and
>>> that are impossible to look up.  Even the in-depth manual isn't *that*
>>> in-depth.  This means there's a kind of pioneer spirit to the whole
>>> thing, with people figuring out this and that just like they would
>>> sort out how to repair a wagon wheel a thousand miles from
>>> civilization.  That's exciting, hip, and creative, but sometimes you
>>> just want a simple answer to a nagging problem that's still beyond
>>> even the best macvisionaries.  All that said, I'm enjoying my new
>>> machine.
>>> Best,
>>> Cathyk
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 16, 2:10 pm, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> First off, don't worry about what may be going on at the moment, with the 
>>>> update.  Mac OS is still so much easier in general to deal with than 
>>>> windows and its various screen readers.  This may not apply for everyone 
>>>> on here but to me the choice was economical.  Every time there was a new 
>>>> version of windows, I'd have to purchase a new version ("upgrade") of 
>>>> ZoomText.  I got tired of playing that game. Every time I buy a new 
>>>> version of Mac OSX, I get a new version of Zoom *and* VoiceOver :)
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Kolby Garrison wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Everyone,
>>>>> I am considering purchasing a mac book pro, and I wanted to know what 
>>>>> satisfied mac users have to say about the pros and cons of mac and 
>>>>> windows. I have been researching voiceover, and it sounds like a very 
>>>>> stable screen reading solution. I like the portable preferences feature, 
>>>>> and from what I have read thus far I do believe that a mac book pro will 
>>>>> be purchased in my very near future. I will go to an apple store for some 
>>>>> hands on time with a mac, but if anyone would share your mac experiences 
>>>>> with me I would appreciate it. I know that there will be a learning curve 
>>>>> going from the windows operating system to the mac operating system, but 
>>>>> I am ready and willing to learn all that I can.
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Kolby
>>>> 
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>>>> Egun On, Lagunak! (Basque for G'day, Mates)
>>>> Pete Naldahttp://www.myspace.com/musikonaldahttp://www.facebook.com/lpnalda
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