Very well put, Laura! :) I agree with all theat you've said!
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower" Steve Jobs

On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> Laura, very well stated and very much to the point.
> 
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:43 PM, Laura M wrote:
> 
>> As to 1, I find messaging on the Mac to be much, much more enjoyable
>> than I ever did on Windows. If you want to, you can use it the way you
>> describe, so you don't have to switch back and forth between the
>> message area and typing field, but even if you use it by tabbing
>> between them, your place is generally remembered, at least on iChat.
>> It also handles multi-person chats better than anything I ever had
>> with Windows. and the best part is, it works without any kind of Jaws
>> overlay. The same commands I use to switch between windows, or bring
>> up contacts are exactly the same for non-Voiceover users.
>> 
>> On a general point, I think listening to demos isn't a good way of
>> figuring out whether you'll be efficient. They don't sound convincing
>> in that regard, I know. That's no fault of the demos, I don't think.
>> It's just hard because some of the concepts, like interacting, seem
>> much more complicated than they are when you're just hearing about
>> them. When you're using them, they're far more intuitive--or at least,
>> they were for me.
>> 
>> Once I started using it, I found that I loved the Voiceover way of
>> doing things. I don't know if it's always more efficient (though I
>> certainly don't think it's less), but it's more useful than that for
>> me. Between group mode and the trackpad, I have a far better sense of
>> how websites and screens work. There's a context that was never
>> present with JAWS. I know, for example, how the mail program is laid
>> out, or that certain webpages have easily accessible sidebars that I
>> can instantly reach. That absolutely does make me more efficient,
>> because instead of tabbing or arrowing everywhere, I can just touch
>> where I want to be. Far, far fewer keystrokes. And because I know
>> where things are, if I'm explaining something to a friend or family
>> member, I can help them visually identify it far more easily than I
>> could've with JAWS. It really has shortened the distance between how I
>> use a computer and how my sighted friends do, and that's awesome.
>> 
>> That's also why I like that VO doesn't make assumptions about what I
>> want it to do, or decide that I'll inevitably want certain extra
>> commands. There are some essential things that really do have to be
>> there for basic functionality, and a lot of really cool stuff that
>> just makes life easier, but I'm not relying on the kind of special
>> JAWS scripts to get things done. Again, it increase parity between me
>> and everyone else using Macs. I didn't know it at the time, but now I
>> really do feel that JAWS was a layer between me and the operating
>> system, which in many cases made it very difficult if scripts broke,
>> or programs were updated, or I was simply trying to explain to a non-
>> JAWS user how I did something. Now I tell them what steps I take, and
>> in most cases, they can replicate them.
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