What improvements would you like fixed in particular when it comes to zoom? On 3 Jul 2012, at 09:44, Garth Humphreys wrote:
> I'd love to see some improvements to the way VO works with Zoom and just some > improvements to Zoom in general. I mostly don't use Zoom on my Mac but this > only because it is so poor when compared to things like ZoomText in the > windows world. It is probably great if you don't need to use Voice Over or if > you only need a little enlargement but it falls completely short for me. > > Garth > iblindtech.com > > On 03/07/2012, at 6:26 PM, Chris Moore wrote: > >> Riccardo, >> >> Actually that is what I was hinting at to be honest, as i feel the method of >> selecting text within Safari is rather sloppy. You can also navigate by >> line within iOS, so hoped that feature would come across to OS X. >> Navigating by line is also useful when trying to read pages that have been >> styled into columns via CSS instead of a table. This can be done in JAWS >> quite nicely. >> >> Chris >> On 3 Jul 2012, at 00:11, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I doubt you will see the reading by line with the down arrow. That would >>> radically change the way VO navigates the web, and I'm not sure it would be >>> for the better. It would be selecting text easier though. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Chris Moore <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hmmm I remember a while back putting a list of 15 improvements. I can't >>>> remember them all now, so perhaps I have just learnt to live without them. >>>> I did report them to Apple though as bugs and feature enhancements. >>>> >>>> The VoiceOver busy is the biggest annoyance which is caused by the >>>> pathetic slow buffering system voice over uses. So I would like to see >>>> that rewritten from the ground up. There are a few random performance >>>> bugs that happen now and then which require me to switch voice over off >>>> then back on again. So overall performance could do with being improved. >>>> >>>> I would also like to know what web page I am looking at when switching >>>> between tabs, being told that is an HTML page is not exactly helpful. I >>>> would also like to navigate line by line just by pressing the down arrow >>>> or up key. VO still needs a bit of work when reporting how many HMTL >>>> elements are on a web page, some windows screen readers seem to find more >>>> tables and headings than VO, especially in the buggy rotor. >>>> >>>> I would like the ability to edit form fields in a PDF with Preview, but I >>>> believe this is coming in the next Mountain Lion release (according to >>>> Apple's website). >>>> >>>> I would appreciate MIDI event editing in GarageBand, and a huge update to >>>> iWork. There just is not enough accessible productive software on the >>>> Mac. There is more to using a Mac than just Skype and Mail surely? >>>> >>>> Not sure if that bug still exists when using the real speak voices where >>>> the pitch used to shift up and down randomly. I stopped using those >>>> voices as it became too annoying. >>>> >>>> I would also like the ability to edit voice over's dictionary. For >>>> example if you type third as in the number 3 followed by the letters r and >>>> d, you get 3rd (three road), surely this should be a third? So I think >>>> the ability to edit some of VO's assumptions would be nice, or maybe VO >>>> should grow up and become a tad more intelligent. I would like more >>>> control over how VO reads out numbers too. >>>> >>>> Maybe developers should also be given the option to name what VO calls an >>>> HTML area, as something else? For example when using adium the chat >>>> window is called an HTML area, am sure a chat window or conversation >>>> window would be more meaningful. >>>> >>>> Last but not least, I find VO a bit slow when first entering the iTunes >>>> store. The page takes a while to render. Well actually visually it does >>>> not, but VO seems to think it does. Actually come to mention it when VO >>>> says something is busy, a sighted person can still move the mouse and >>>> perform the action they require, it is just VO's buffer which is busy. >>>> >>>> I spotted another bug today too. When ordering a smart case for my iPad, >>>> VO was unable to read out the colour options. When trying to select a >>>> colour, VO simply said "space radio button" for each of the 6 colours. >>>> The work around seemed to be select a colour, go back to the top of the >>>> screen and read out the description to see if the default green had >>>> changed. Or look in the basket and hope to god you have not selected >>>> pink. I eventually performed this task via the Apple Store app on my >>>> iPhone which performed perfectly. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> On 2 Jul 2012, at 19:16, Daniel McGee wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, a while ago on this list I saw someone mention that they would >>>>> like so and so bug to be fixed in Mountain Lion. >>>>> I would just really like to start a discussion on if there are not many >>>>> enhancements to Voiceover in the next OS, then what bugs would you like >>>>> fixed and hope Apple has done there job with it. >>>>> I'll go 1st. >>>>> For me its safari. two things for me. >>>>> 1. Now and then when I go back a page with CMD left bracket Voiceover >>>>> doesn't announce my list of headings or links that I have set in VO >>>>> utility. >>>>> 2. continuing this previous page thing, because I don't always know when >>>>> the page is fully loaded when going back, I get the lovely "Voiceover >>>>> Busy!" Not! >>>>> This is using Lion V7.4 and Safari 5.1.7 >>>>> >>>>> So what are yours? >>>>> >>>>> I hope this will become an interesting topic because I'm interested to >>>>> see what people can come up with and I'm sure there will be some good >>>>> ones! >>>>> >>>>> So everyone, the dance floor is yours! 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